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Sola Scripturists guide on the authority of the Bible

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The Bible cannot be understood without the Holy Spirit illuminating one's view of what is written. Just look at all the thousands of 'man-made' denominations that contradict each other, borne out of each man's own interpretation, with little regard for seeking God's truth. :/
We saw that in 1054, didn't we? I call that a major clue that the the two prevailing views were flawed.
 
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Rather the rejection tends to be because each rejects accountability (and thus norming and any norm in such) in the sole, singular, exclusive, particular, unique case of self alone. From The Handbook of the Catholic Faith (page 151), "When the Catholic is asked for the substantiation for his belief, the correct answer is: From the teaching authority
I figured that out in parochial grade school.
i was an authority problem.
 
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how many pews in front of you/

Zero. My church has two pews in the very back and two along each side wall for the elderly or mothers with infants. Those of us who don't fit either category, stand.
 
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The Bible cannot be understood without the Holy Spirit illuminating one's view of what is written. Just look at all the thousands of 'man-made' denominations that contradict each other, borne out of each man's own interpretation, with little regard for seeking God's truth. :/

The problem is that Protestants here believe that they do have the HS working with them - this means that each one of them, coming to their own truth believes its true based on them believing it is so
 
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The problem is that Protestants here believe that they do have the HS working with them - this means that each one of them, coming to their own truth believes its true based on them believing it is so

:thumbsup: Two people can come up with two totally different interpretations (one often totally contradicting the other person's interpretation) of the same passage of Scripture and both will argue that the HS led them to this interpretation. How can this be if the HS leads us to all truth? Is the HS lying to one person?

As I said before, the doctrine of SS has led to nothing but division!
 
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:thumbsup: Two people can come up with two totally different interpretations (one often totally contradicting the other person's interpretation) of the same passage of Scripture and both will argue that the HS led them to this interpretation. How can this be if the HS leads us to all truth? Is the HS lying to one person?

As I said before, the doctrine of SS has led to nothing but division!

Well, EO and RC should try something else ;)

Actually, the fact is, the Church departed from scripture and apostolic-tied tradition long before. That is the reason for division. (Anyone may know, said Firmillian in 256ad, amongst many others.)
 
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Well, EO and RC should try something else
The EO aren't divided

By our definitinon, we're not divided.

By your definition, we're not divided - because you guys believe in an invisible church of all believers.

Either way, going by how we understand church, or by how you do you don't have a point!
 
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The EO aren't divided

Gotta get out more often :thumbsup:

By our definitinon, we're not divided.

By your definition, we're not divided - because you guys believe in an invisible church of all believers.

Either way, going by how we understand church, or by how you do you don't have a point!

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The EO aren't divided

By our definitinon, we're not divided.

By your definition, we're not divided - because you guys believe in an invisible church of all believers.

Either way, going by how we understand church, or by how you do you don't have a point!

Please provide an example of any church that, by its own definition, is divided.

Thanks. :)
 
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Please provide an example of any church that, by its own definition, is divided.

Thanks.

I did this some time ago about the Anglican church schisms over same-sex priests. You were there on that thread.

I also evidenced the Westboro Baptist Church that is divided from every other church.

That's divisions within a Protestant church, and without

If you want to go over what Luther said about Anabaptists, or what Calvin said about Luther, that's okay.
 
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I did this some time ago about the Anglican church schisms over same-sex priests. You were there on that thread.

I also evidenced the Westboro Baptist Church that is divided from every other church.

That's divisions within a Protestant church, and without

If you want to go over what Luther said about Anabaptists, or what Calvin said about Luther, that's okay.

I assuredly remember your input on that thread. However, you see to have missed understanding my question, which was, "Please provide an example of a church that, by its own definition, is divided."

I am quite unaware of any statements from Canterbury that the Anglican communion is divided. Nor would the pastor or members of the Westboro Baptist Church state that they are divided.

Now, that some denominations and particular church bodies state that other churches exist is not germane to my question. The EOC recognizes the existence of other denominations and churches and freely admits that they are not united with them. However, as you stated, the EOC is not divided, by its own definition.
 
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