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Law of Loud said:
Murder of Organized Labor - So many of these worker's rights that we take for granted were brought into the world by organized labor. These include such important institutions as minimum wage, vacation, reasonable work hours, and pensions. Sadly, labor unions are being murdered right now by the powers that be. We will need them in the future, I can guarantee you of this. Our actions now will only force us back into the struggle as time passes.
What do you mean by murdering them?
If you mean that the government is prohibitting people of uniting and making groups in whatever form they wish, then I agree completely with you.
However, if by murder you mean that the government will give less actual support for unions, then that is a great thing.

State-supported unions create unemployment, make the economy less efficient and, in the end, make it so that the whole society is materially worse off.

In Mexico City's airport there are no luggage cart for passengers; if they need help carrying luggage, they have to hire a worker from the "luggage carrier union", the only ones allowed to have luggage carts.
How ridiculous is that?

And the minimum wage, too, creates unemployment. A society with minimum wage has people who want jobs but can't find them and has less people employed if there were no minimum wage.

Not to mention that powerful unions behave like true mafias, killing and extorting at their whim.
 
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Pray4Isrel said:
USA
Terrorism
Foreign Relations
Immorality
Liberalism

World
Israeli/Palestinian Conflict
Terrorism
Corrupt Governments (dictatorships/socialism/etc.)
The U.N
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Yes because freedom and equality and democracy are just icky.
 
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Indeed, those are some of its problems.

But I think that it has some fundamental flaws in it, such as the relativist and "plural" vision of the world it fully embraces.
And they finance criminal groups, such as the MST from Brazil, who invade farms so that their members can have a piece of land of their own (and 80% of those who get their piece of land sell it and go right back to the settlements, waiting and invading more).
 
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Well, Because I want to emphasize this I will only post the largest problem in America, an UNINFORMED AND ARROGANT PUBLIC. Also, if any moderator thinks this breaks a rule, fine, but it is the truth and I will never shy from that.
 
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The United Nations is clearly a global problem because it has proven to be as effective as the League of Nations in promoting world peace. Over 300 wars have been fought since the UN was founded. Its ironic that 2003 was the most peaceful year since 1945 and the UN's role was the weakest in that year. Abolish the UN and replace it with an organization of democracies in the pursuit of universal freedom for all.
 
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gop_ryan said:
The United Nations is clearly a global problem because it has proven to be as effective as the League of Nations in promoting world peace. Over 300 wars have been fought since the UN was founded. Its ironic that 2003 was the most peaceful year since 1945 and the UN's role was the weakest in that year. Abolish the UN and replace it with an organization of democracies in the pursuit of universal freedom for all.
Where does it say that the purpose of the UN is to prevent wars?
 
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gop_ryan said:
The United Nations is clearly a global problem because it has proven to be as effective as the League of Nations in promoting world peace. Over 300 wars have been fought since the UN was founded. Its ironic that 2003 was the most peaceful year since 1945 and the UN's role was the weakest in that year. Abolish the UN and replace it with an organization of democracies in the pursuit of universal freedom for all.
The way Mr Bush is handling the world, it seems that organisation already exists.
Hint: what you should have said was an organisation of universal democracies in the pursuit of universal freedom for all - if thats what you meant.
 
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The world

1) Failure to Give God due Praise and Thanks and live the calling he gives us.
2) Sin
3) Hypocrisy of Christian people especially in Western World
4) False religion- Islam,Hinduism, Buddhism and Judaism especially

Specific issues having already assumed the above by nation - I will speak for three since I have an interest in three.

UK
1) Secularisation and godlessness
2) Sexual Immorality (attendant problems of abortion, divorce)
3) Dominance of the State and its bureaucracies - high tax , high regulation, high interference
4) Self reliance - trusting in ones own strength and understanding rather than in the Lord

Germany
1) Unreality and overwhelming power of state institutions/bureaucracies and failure of people to face up to uncomfortable need for reform of government and economic practices
2) Need to move on from WW2. germany is too Passive in dealing with major internal structural and external relational problems. Its needs to be come more aggressive in its dealing with Europe and with france in particular and stop feeling so guilty about events that occurred so long ago.
3) Weakness towards fundamentalist Islam and accomodation here.
4) Self reliance - trusting in ones own strength and understanding rather than in the Lord

USA
1) Self reliance - trusting in ones own strength and understanding rather than in the Lord
2) Hypocrisy of Christians - presenting one image living another
3) Lack of concern of rich for poor, lack of concern for poor people of the third world, over dependence on oil and car culture, failure to save for a rainy day, trade deficit
4) Sexual Immorality (attendant problems of abortion, divorce)
 
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The United Nations does not promote democracy or it would expel all nations who have autoritarian regimes, which is sadly 60% of its members. I rather have Bush's coalition of the willing instead of the coalition of tyrants and their lovers, France and Germany.
 
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gop_ryan said:
I rather have Bush's coalition of the willing instead of the coalition of tyrants and their lovers, France and Germany.
Man, you use the word "tyranny" and its various forms as if it was going out of style. Stop trying to demonize everything you disagree with. It makes you look like a close-minded religious extremist.
 
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Pray4Isrel said:
Relax!
We're all having a discussion here... if it angers you so much, perhaps you shouldn't participate in this thread.
And I don't see your comments toward the moderators to be necessary. We all maintain a fair and balanced forum where people can participate regardless of their opinions and beliefs.

It doesn't anger me, just annoys me. I think the reason, the ENTIRE reason, this country is going down is because the American public is too arrogant to stop it or even care about it.
 
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Well lets look at the people who oppose the United States...

Palestinians
Yassir Arafat- Dictator

North Korea
Kim Jong Il- Dictator

Iran
The Mullahs- Dictators

People's Republic of China
Communist Party- Dictators

Syria
Assad- Dictator

Venezuela
Chavez- Dictator well elected if you want to call it an election...

Cuba
Fidel Castro- Dictator

Now these are just a few. If you would like me to add more I gladly will. Now who do these nations side with most of the time? Not the United States
 
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Fidel Castro is a 'people's dictator', he has the power of a dictator with the support and love of the people.

China is a capitalist %$%$#@#

Kim Jong Il has no power other than 'charisma'.

Yassir Arafat is a motivator and an oppressed person (compare Mandela)

Chavez has no dictoral powers, is democratically elected, and has brought his people out of poverty.

And most of the worlds dictators were put into power by the United States of America, predominantly by the Reagan adminstration.
 
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