Yes brother i said i was leaving and i did, i have come back like a dog who eats it's own vomit. But i will attempt to correct the wrong in which i myself have started. Politics does not belong together with god's word. Never should we serve two masters as you have said. We both, you and i brother are guilty. But this is what i asked for, so i hold no bad feelings against you. As a matter of fact, i like politics, i am addicted to it like a drug. But i think it ends in folly where Gods words are concerned. I hate my own political views disrupting Gods word and i hate it when the other side does it too. Will you say that Obama follows Jesus when he spreads others wealth around and uses bible scripture to back it up? Man, i would be carefull that you not fall into the political trap brother. Obama doesn't serve God, how do i know this? GOD DAMN AMERICA! That is what his children hear in church! Obama covered the name of Jesus, without correcting it, not worthy of praise.
I like politics too. As a rather scientifically minded person however I am extremely careful to research the different people and positions before I criticize or praise them. My adoption of socialistic principles only occurred after years of thought.
Yes brother, i was wrong in being politically motivated. But i stuck up for my brother, same as you should do. Im not better than you by any means, i don't even think it. You try and shame my brother and i will try and shame you! We should love one another as jesus said. Forgive me brother for insulting you, i was wrong.
I did not mean to belittle him at all. Thanks for pointing out that my words can be read that way. I admit I was a little annoyed at unsubstantiated claims, but I try not to belittle anyone. And I certainly didn't intend to do so now.
And if someone tries to shame someone else, I remind you as a brother that we are supposed to turn the other cheek, and lovingly chastise those among us who do wrong. Shaming is not a valid procedure. I understand your reaction though, and I can do nought but say I am sorry for appearing to shame him.
even now i am wrong for not loving you like i should. these are the things we should talk about, we should love oneanother, you and me, put our foolish ideas behind us, we are both acting like fools when we talk of things not concerning to God. I am wrong, wrong, wrong. Forgive me brother seriously. Im sorry.
Well, I like talking about different things. Testing my views. Finding other people who have spent a decade or two forming their views as I have mine. I find few. Very very few. Most adopt a viewpoint without thinking it through, and guard it ferociously. I find it extremely hard to respect a viewpoint which is absolute and at the same time not based on anything but a desire, wish or opinion.
Did you see what i wrote about darwin? what do you think about it brother?
Ah. Yes I read it. No, I did not intend to say that if Darwin was wrong capitalism is wrong. Social darwinism is something rather different from the theory of evolution. Social darwinism is the attempt at employing extreme competition into society to let the strong root out the weak and prevail over them. While the theory of evolution is a matter of observations and deductions from those observations about how nature works, social darwinism is a philosophical or ideological approach to society.
The two are as different as night is from day.
To boil it down: Evolution does not concern itself with what should be or morals and ethics. Social Darwinism DOES. And when I have spoken with American creationists one of their primary arguments against evolution has been that it encourages social darwinism. And some say that social darwinism came into being because of the theory of evolution.
There are multiple problems with this. First off, if you read Plato's "The Republic" he describes social darwinism rather explicitly in his description of the perfect state as he saw it. So it is rather older than Darwin. About 2000 years older at the very least. Probably much more so. As old as sin itself I'd think. And secondly: It is a logical fallacy to claim that one can draw conclusions as to how things should be from how they are. Thirdly a scientific theory does not concern itself with what should be or what is right. It merely concerns itself with what
is, based on empirical data.
So what about capitalism? Well, it is based upon the principles of social darwinism in that it strengthens the strong and enables the strong to push the weak off of the playing field. It, as a system, is socio-darwinistic. I took a class in philosophy last semester and spoke to my professor about my perceptions of capitalism as a sociodarwinistic ideology. He said the observation was apt, and quite correct. The sociodarwinistic principles are embedded in the ideology and the more laissez faire it is, the more it becomes a pure form of social darwinism.
So what I intended to say is that if you base your belief on Evolution being wrong because you find it immoral, then you should by the same measure discard capitalism as it embodies that which most creationists I know consider the evil in evolution.
Did that answer your question?
