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[Zaac]

It really doesn't. The only thing the Nicene Creed consistently declares is Christians believe in God and salvation through Christ and some versions don't even agree on that. The Bible isn't part of the Nicene Creed. I'm truly ashamed in all of you. Whether or not you agree, or even if we they aren't Christian, you can't treat them this way and do everything in your power to make it where they can't even have an argument. That's cheating, it's sick, and it's rather hypocritical.

It is a CHRISTIAN FORUM.
CHRISTIAN.

And Christians need to remember that they are called to be pleasing to Christ FIRST. And when a CHRISTIAN forum has taken to espousing all sorts of heresies and blasphemies and still allowing folks to call themselves Christians, Christ is not glorified.

Too many times we become so concerned with being tolerant of everyone and his views that we forget that we are to be a witness for Christ FIRST.

And that IS NOT the witness that is displayed when people ae espousing anti-Christ, anti-Biblical doctrine.

If this board is not witnessing for Christ, it's witnessing for the enemy. And that should not be allowed.

I am excited that steps have been takenand cntinue to be taken to make the CHRISTIAN FORUMS into a witness for CHRIST.

Now as for the way folks will be treated, they won't be treated with any less love than before. they simply will not be able to promote those things which go against God's Word.

If folks want to talk about homosexuality that's fine. But it is possible to talk about homosexuality and the committing of homosexual acts without purposely trying to endorse as not sinful that which God says is sin.

we don't do it for abortion. we don't do it for adultery. we don't do it for heterosexual fornication. And we don't need to tolerate it of homosexual fornication.

Gods word makes men free. Use it to help people to Christ so that He may give His discernment. Theres no need to argue with people over the TRUTH. This simply gives credence to their anti-Biblical point of view

 

[FaithLikeARock]

It is a CHRISTIAN FORUM.
CHRISTIAN.

And Christians need to remember that they are called to be pleasing to Christ FIRST. And when a CHRISTIAN forum has taken to espousing all sorts of heresies and blasphemies and still allowing folks to call themselves Christians, Christ is not glorified.

Too many times we become so concerned with being tolerant of everyone and his views that we forget that we are to be a witness for Christ FIRST.

And that IS NOT the witness that is displayed when people ae espousing anti-Christ, anti-Biblical doctrine.

If this board is not witnessing for Christ, it's witnessing for the enemy. And that should not be allowed.

I am excited that steps have been takenand cntinue to be taken to make the CHRISTIAN FORUMS into a witness for CHRIST.

Now as for the way folks will be treated, they won't be treated with any less love than before. they simply will not be able to promote those things which go against God's Word.

If folks want to talk about homosexuality that's fine. But it is possible to talk about homosexuality and the committing of homosexual acts without purposely trying to endorse as not sinful that which God says is sin.

we don't do it for abortion. we don't do it for adultery. we don't do it for heterosexual fornication. And we don't need to tolerate it of homosexual fornication.

Gods word makes men free. Use it to help people to Christ so that He may give His discernment. Theres no need to argue with people over the TRUTH. This simply gives credence to their anti-Biblical point of view

How do I put this nice and short, oh yeah. NO IT'S NOT.

Oh it's CALLED ChristianForum. Thats' nice. Who cares?! If it were JUST a Christian forum, there would be no Debate forum, they would've never allowed other religions. No. It's not a Christian forum. YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE IT A CHRISTIAN FORUM. You are not so lazy that you can't go find a strictly Christian forum. They're out there. Stop manipulating this one and go find one.

This board was never for witness. There are particular boards and personally, witnessing over a forum sounds like another lazy thing. Someone is too lazy to go out and actually help people. No instead I'm going to sit here anonymous so that if I act like a jerk I don't have to suffer the consequences. That's an insult to all the martyrs who show there faces praising God and sharing His mercy!

 

[FaithLikeARock]

I will witness to my fellow passengers during the flight, the ones flying in first class anyway.

I refuse to believe there's a troll on these forums but you come close. That's sickening. I don't care if you're witnessing. Christ said to give everything you have and you're talking about going to Hawaii on first class? My grandparents are extremely well off and they don't even fly first class. They don't give it away but they don't over indulge themself either.

I'm probably going to have to edit all that. But I'd like to say in my defense that you're baiting me and I'm not going to let it drop.

 

[BreadAlone]

we don't do it for abortion. we don't do it for adultery. we don't do it for heterosexual fornication. And we don't need to tolerate it of homosexual fornication.

Have you been to the Debates on abortion section recently? People come up with rationalizations for all sorts of things. I even saw a thread in the teens section entitled "I'm trying to decide if it's ok to have premarital sex."

God have mercy on us..

 

[Zaac]

Have you been to the Debates on abortion section recently? People come up with rationalizations for all sorts of things. I even saw a thread in the teens section entitled "I'm trying to decide if it's ok to have premarital sex."

God have mercy on us..

Then those forums need to be addressed also. The Body of Christ should be uplifting the Body, not encouraging parts to disobey.

It's like that thread where folks were saying its okay to have premarital sex. If folks wanna talk and say that they are having premarital sex, go for it. But this promoting that which is wrong as though it is right should not be tolerated in any subforum.

 

[Zaac]

How do I put this nice and short, oh yeah. NO IT'S NOT.

It is indeed a Christian Forum. Like you, people have gotten the impression that it is not because, like the Church, there has been too much tolerance for that which is anti-Christ and no correcction.

We've you've got folks saying that you can be a Christian and not believe in a resurrected Jesus Christ...Houston we have a problem.

Oh it's CALLED ChristianForum. Thats' nice. Who cares?! If it were JUST a Christian forum, there would be no Debate forum, they would've never allowed other religions. No. It's not a Christian forum. YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE IT A CHRISTIAN FORUM. You are not so lazy that you can't go find a strictly Christian forum. They're out there. Stop manipulating this one and go find one.

This one suits me just fine until God moves me elsewhere.

This board was never for witness. There are particular boards and personally, witnessing over a forum sounds like another lazy thing. Someone is too lazy to go out and actually help people. No instead I'm going to sit here anonymous so that if I act like a jerk I don't have to suffer the consequences. That's an insult to all the martyrs who show there faces praising God and sharing His mercy!

You can witness for Christ in any and every situation. Interesting that you think that Christ has called us to be less of a witness for Him simply because we are not face to face with someone. If you can communicate with someone, you can witness Christ. Just as televangelists do it over the airways, it can be done via the internet.

And frankly, you sound more emphatic about being tolerant of any and everything than you are about being a witness for Christ any and everywhere. That's just my observation.

If someone can witness for Christ via the written word on an internet forum, I just don't see Christ or those who were martyred for Him being upset.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

It is indeed a Christian Forum. Like you, people have gotten the impression that it is not because, like the Church, there has been too much tolerance for that which is anti-Christ and no correcction.

We've you've got folks saying that you can be a Christian and not believe in a resurrected Jesus Christ...Houston we have a problem.



This one suits me just fine until God moves me elsewhere.




You can witness for Christ in any and every situation. Interesting that you think that Christ has called us to be less of a witness for Him simply because we are not face to face with someone. If you can communicate with someone, you can witness Christ. Just as televangelists do it over the airways, it can be done via the internet.

And frankly, you sound more emphatic about being tolerant of any and everything than you are about being a witness for Christ any and everywhere. That's just my observation.

If someone can witness for Christ via the written word on an internet forum, I just don't see Christ or those who were martyred for Him being upset.

The problem with the Church is it's separated by hate and disagreement. It's why we have so many denominations. The Church is broken and being tolerant isn't what did it.

And believing in the resurrected Christ actually IS part of the Nicene Creed. Believe in the Bible isn't.

You can be but you shouldn't purposely go onto a forum and to witness because that's where your true nature shows. If you happen to witness, fine. But don't come in thinking "I'm here to witness". Especially if you're going to act like you do. Here's a hint Zaac: You're never going to convert someone in a debate forum. It won't happen.

AND if you're so desperate to restrict people, all those poeple are going to leave because they won't feel welcome and there will be no chance to save them! You don't care! It's a pride issue!

They're upset because they're putting their life on the line and you're hiding nice and safe behind a screen. The same effect isn't there because you're not on the front lines.

 

[BreadAlone]

The problem with the Church is it's separated by hate and disagreement. It's why we have so many denominations. The Church is broken and being tolerant isn't what did it.

And believing in the resurrected Christ actually IS part of the Nicene Creed. Believe in the Bible isn't.

You can be but you shouldn't purposely go onto a forum and to witness because that's where your true nature shows. If you happen to witness, fine. But don't come in thinking "I'm here to witness". Especially if you're going to act like you do. Here's a hint Zaac: You're never going to convert someone in a debate forum. It won't happen.

AND if you're so desperate to restrict people, all those poeple are going to leave because they won't feel welcome and there will be no chance to save them! You don't care! It's a pride issue!

They're upset because they're putting their life on the line and you're hiding nice and safe behind a screen. The same effect isn't there because you're not on the front lines.

We have so many denominations because of lies and false doctrine.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

We have so many denominations because of lies and false doctrine.

Right, because yours is right on. We have so many because people have NEVER been able to agree on Scripture. EVER. It's been that way since Jesus' time.

 

[BreadAlone]

Right, because yours is right on. We have so many because people have NEVER been able to agree on Scripture. EVER. It's been that way since Jesus' time.

Did I SAY mine is right on? NO. I just don't claim that there's no possible way to decipher what is truth or to tell people they are wrong like so many people on here try to make us believe..there IS a way..and that is with the Scriptures..

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

The problem with the Church is it's separated by hate and disagreement. It's why we have so many denominations. The Church is broken and being tolerant isn't what did it.

Is tolerance the key? Whats more important, a unified body that is tolerant (too tolerant) or a separated body with some of the separate sections actually following Christ? How does Christ speak to the churches in the book of revelation? It is a good example of what He expects of us.

And believing in the resurrected Christ actually IS part of the Nicene Creed. Believe in the Bible isn't.

The bible testifies to the resurrected Christ, doesn't it? All the nicene creed does is bunch together the core fundamentals of christianity into a few key statements.

You can be but you shouldn't purposely go onto a forum and to witness because that's where your true nature shows. If you happen to witness, fine. But don't come in thinking "I'm here to witness". Especially if you're going to act like you do. Here's a hint Zaac: You're never going to convert someone in a debate forum. It won't happen.

Thats not very optimistic of you. Do you realize just how many people read these threads and never post? Overcoming the stubbornness of someone who is debating with you is usually near impossible. But I have no doubt that there are those who read these threads because they are on the fence about the issue, or want to learn more. So if your view opposes the one given, and you fail to let it be known, then you are doing a disservice to those people.

 

[Zaac]

The problem with the Church is it's separated by hate and disagreement. It's why we have so many denominations. The Church is broken and being tolerant isn't what did it.

That really has nothing to do with the discussion as to why certain anti-Christ beliefs are not to be tolerated on a Christian forum.

And believing in the resurrected Christ actually IS part of the Nicene Creed. Believe in the Bible isn't.

Nobody has asked anyone to believe in the Bible. it's a book. The belief should be in the Living Word that is embodied by that very same written Word inside the Bible.

And it's rather hypocritical to express a belief in a resurrected Christ while rejecting His breathed Word. Just my two cents. Again, it makes for a very poor witness as to where Christians get their standard for right and wrong.

You can be but you shouldn't purposely go onto a forum and to witness because that's where your true nature shows.

Why not? It's a Christian forum. i'm a Christian. Why would I go anywhere and anyone expect me to do anything less than witness for Christ? That's why Christians are still on this earth.

If you happen to witness, fine. But don't come in thinking "I'm here to witness".

What has Christ commissioned the Christian to do if not witness for Him? I fear that many get so consumed with being in the world that they forget what they are supposed to be doing.

Especially if you're going to act like you do. Here's a hint Zaac: You're never going to convert someone in a debate forum. It won't happen.

Here's a hint for you, and I've said it a few hundred times: I'm not tasked of God to convert anyone. that's the work of the Holy Spirit. I am to use His word to point out wrong to the evil doer while encouraging him that there is a Savior who has conquered sin and its end.

And just so that you know. I've been doing this for years and I know several others who have. we sow, we water, and we reap. People are coming to Christ because God's Word that makes men free does what He intends for it to do when it is delivered.

AND if you're so desperate to restrict people, all those poeple are going to leave because they won't feel welcome and there will be no chance to save them! You don't care! It's a pride issue!

I'm a denizen of free speech. But this is intended to be a CHRISTIAN FORUM and people know this. If folks are going to promote that which is anti-Christ, then it needs to be restricted in the same manner that we don't invite folks to Church and let them come in with a stack of Hustler magazines.

They're upset because they're putting their life on the line and you're hiding nice and safe behind a screen. The same effect isn't there because you're not on the front lines.

They can put their feelings out just fine without promoting that which is sin

 

[Floatingaxe]

I didn't say that.

You said:

so any time people disagree about a doctrine one of them is right and one is in sin

They might both be wrong and in sin. That's why I said God is right and if you're not aligned with His Word, you're wrong.


Ahh my good fella. This is why I quote Scripture. God doesn't unalign Himself.


Naah. yall just trying to be tolerant of everybody's viewpoint. I'm simply notcalled to be tolerant of that which isn't aligned with God. my view is saying God is right and where you disagree with the FULL COUNSEL of God's Word, you're wrong.


Delivering God's Truth should be about directing people to the same page that HE is on, not the same page YOU are on.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Lee should fly you and me out to Honolulu or something and we could meet with him for a few hours and pan out all the new rules for this site.

Oh, man! I would go, even if I never saw a beach!

 

[Floatingaxe]

I will witness to my fellow passengers during the flight, the ones flying in first class anyway.

I get the window, and Zaac-y can have the aisle. You can be cozy between us.

 

[Floatingaxe]

I refuse to believe there's a troll on these forums but you come close. That's sickening. I don't care if you're witnessing. Christ said to give everything you have and you're talking about going to Hawaii on first class? My grandparents are extremely well off and they don't even fly first class. They don't give it away but they don't over indulge themself either.

I'm probably going to have to edit all that. But I'd like to say in my defense that you're baiting me and I'm not going to let it drop.

I dont get your offense! He was being humourous! Where is everyone's sense of humour around here?

 

[Floatingaxe]

They're upset because they're putting their life on the line and you're hiding nice and safe behind a screen. The same effect isn't there because you're not on the front lines.

Are YOU on the front lines? Don't be overly judgmental or hypocritical.


Christians are called to make NO COMPROMISE!


No matter where we spend our days, we will tell of Jesus!

 

[Floatingaxe]

Thats not very optimistic of you. Do you realize just how many people read these threads and never post? Overcoming the stubbornness of someone who is debating with you is usually near impossible. But I have no doubt that there are those who read these threads because they are on the fence about the issue, or want to learn more. So if your view opposes the one given, and you fail to let it be known, then you are doing a disservice to those people.

Yeah, Jet!
That's the same disservice done when someone has the bright notion to play devil's advocate! God takes note of every idle word spoken even in CF.

As if Satan needed any special advocate from among the sheep...or are they?

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear tulc,

LOL! The problem isn't, do they believe Paul? the problem is did Paul believe the Nicene Creed?

On the contrary, that isnt the point at all, the Nicene Creed is a statement of faith drawn from the cannon of scripture. So my point stands, the Council of Nicea believed what Paul wrote.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear FaithLikeARock,
You mentioned Christ gave up everything suggesting a 1st class ticket to Hawaii wasnt right. Are you thinking of the rich you man who tried to justify himself whom Jesus told to sell all his posessions? If so how how that he walked away sad contrasted with Zaccheus who only sold half his possessions and Jesus said the Kingdom had come to his house.
This sounds like the emaciated humanistic liberal gospel to me, Yes Jesus did say sell posessions and give to te poor Luke 12, but He requires His disciples make Him Lord, that means giving up everything, that includes same-sex sex if thats an issue.
So do you give up everything, all posessions and sex outside marriage?