so...

[tulc]

Of course not, Non-Christians dont for a start

Like Paul and all those who came the 300 years before the council of Nicaea met? And which form of the creed is the correct one?
tulc(aren't these the same arguments that we had a few months ago? when all those people didn't think the Nicene creed was good enough?)

 

[Phinehas2]

No the council of Nicea were Christians, they believd what Paul wrote.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

The Creed declared on ChristianForums says nothing about the Bible. It says we believe in God and God's salvation, not the Bible.

 

[tulc]

No the council of Nicea were Christians, they believd what Paul wrote.

LOL! The problem isn't, do they believe Paul? the problem is did Paul believe the Nicaean Creed? and since he died some 300 years before it I'm thinking no. See the difference?
tulc(and which version is the right one?)

 

[Zaac]

Not everyone agrees with the Nicene Creed. But if the site owner wants to impose creedal orthodoxy on the posts here, that's up to him, as he owns the site. I think it's unfortunate, as people grow best by hearing all points of view. But he owns the site, and he gets to decide what people can and cannot post on his site.

It is the call of Christ on the life of the Christian to grow other Christians in His truth, not in the world's lies.

He did not unilaterally decide what people can/cannot post. It is a CHRISTIAN Forum and he is advocating what GOD's Word has laready delivered as truth.

Told yall last year that all this placing of stumbling blocks in people's way as though it were Christian doctrine would soon cease.

 

[Ohioprof]

It is the call of Christ on the life of the Christian to grow other Christians in His truth, not in the world's lies.

He did not unilaterally decide what people can/cannot post. It is a CHRISTIAN Forum and he is advocating what GOD's Word has laready delivered as truth.

Told yall last year that all this placing of stumbling blocks in people's way as though it were Christian doctrine would soon cease.

Not all Christians believe as you do. Not all Christians who believe in the Nicene Creed believe as you do. Just because you believe something does not make it the "truth." It is simply your understanding of the truth. I think we should all recognize , that we each come to our own understanding of God's truth, and all of our understandings of truth are partial and flawed. The debates here are not between those who adhere to God's truth and those who do not. The debates in these forums are between people who each understand God's truth a little differently. And those debates will continue, as they are not necessarily debates over the Nicene Creed.

The debates on homosexuality have nothing directly to do with the Nicene Creed. And so they will not be affected by this new rule, at least not at this point, from what I can tell. New rules may suddenly be handed down, but I don't see this one right now affecting the DOH subforum.

 

[Zaac]

Not all Christians believe as you do. Not all Christians who believe in the Nicene Creed believe as you do. Just because you believe something does not make it the "truth."

I haven't asked anyone to believe as I do. But as a Christian, we should believe what God says.

As such, those who do not believe in adherence with the Christ honoring creed of Nicea that aligns with God's word can take their stumbling blocks to a forum that does not have CHRISTIAN on it.

This is a CHRISTIAN forum for the advancement of God's Kingdom. It is not the personal domain of those who rant against the Word of God in effort to make their unBiblical doctrine "the new right."

It is simply your understanding of the truth. I think we should all recognize , that we each come to our own understanding of God's truth, and all of our understandings of truth are partial and flawed.

1 And God spoke all these words:
2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me.Ex. 20:1-3

Yours may be partial and flawed. I'm indwelled by the Holy Spirit. I have the mind of Christ with His understanding.

Sounds like just another excuse for justifying relativism and the fashioning of every person's individual version of the truth as a god.

The debates here are not between those who adhere to God's truth and those who do not. The debates in these forums are between people who each understand God's truth a little differently. And those debates will continue, as they are not necessarily debates over the Nicene Creed.

Nope. impossible for them to continue because they run contrary to thetruth of God's Word and espouse that which is antiChristian.

The debates on homosexuality have nothing directly to do with the Nicene Creed. And so they will not be affected by this new rule, at least not at this point, from what I can tell. New rules may suddenly be handed down, but I don't see this one right now affecting the DOH subforum.

They have everything to do with antiChrist doctrine so keep on with the wishful thinking of it nt affecting folks ability to say that they are Christians and then post some mess that runs contrary to God's Word.

Light has nothing in common with darkness.

 

[BAFRIEND]

The debates on homosexuality have nothing directly to do with the Nicene Creed. And so they will not be affected by this new rule, at least not at this point, from what I can tell. New rules may suddenly be handed down, but I don't see this one right now affecting the DOH subforum.

You hope it does not. But let me tell you something, this subforum was not in fact created as an outlet but as a deterrant. You see, when this place was nicene, the fringies were raiding all the forums with homosexual topics and in fact derailing threads left and right so that this forum was created and the topic of homosexuality was in fact limited to here. You were not even allowed to state in your html or signature that you were a homosexual.

In fact, when this place was nicene before, a site wide poll was conducted and the vast vast majority of members polled agreed that homosexuality was an abomination to God. While you state that DOH has nothing to do with nicene I beg to differ. They kicked homosexual topics into this littlle sub forum. I would not be surprised if this forum was closed and I also would not be surprised if within days or weeks non-nicenes were kicked out of membership forums. the new owner is very conservative and I guarantee you that as a Baptist he is not accepting of the gay lifestyle.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Well for one thing, certain folks here cannot come along and argue their position, in a Christian context from a non-nicene point of view. We will be on the same page now.

No more of this "I am a lesbian/gay unitarian, so I don't take the Bible literally, etc. etc."

Debating your point within the Christian context from a non-nicene POV will be a violation of forum rules. I don't know why they would hang around now anyway.

Amen. It's an answer to prayer.

 

[BAFRIEND]

Amen. It's an answer to prayer.

Lee should fly you and me out to Honolulu or something and we could meet with him for a few hours and pan out all the new rules for this site.

 

[Zaac]

Lee should fly you and me out to Honolulu or something and we could meet with him for a few hours and pan out all the new rules for this site.

Ungh ungh. Yall ain't going nowhere unless I can come too.

 

[united4Peace]

Lee should fly you and me out to Honolulu or something and we could meet with him for a few hours and pan out all the new rules for this site.

Wouldnt it be better to spend money going to the street people to talk about God rather to fly two people who have roofs over their heads and pc's (so Im assumming $$ and a job) to a vacation destination that many others will never experience ??

 

[Zaac]

Wouldnt it be better to spend money going to the street people to talk about God rather to fly two people who have roofs over their heads and pc's (so Im assumming $$ and a job) to a vacation destination that many others will never experience ??

COme here u4p.

 

[tulc]

Lee should fly you and me out to Honolulu or something and we could meet with him for a few hours and pan out all the new rules for this site.

Yeah he really should...of course the problem that is going to arise is after you get us all kicked off? Then comes time for the Baptists to remember how much they dislike the Catholics. Kind of like when the conservatives realized they weren't going to get the whole site to go along with their views about the Nicaean Creed not being stringent enough and they started eating each other for "not being conservative enough"
tulc(ahh well, it'll be your problem then)

 

[united4Peace]

COme here u4p.

That hurt...gotta go pop a few tylenol now

 

[BAFRIEND]

Ungh ungh. Yall ain't going nowhere unless I can come too.

I'll tell Lee that I am not going unless you can come too.

 

[BAFRIEND]

Wouldnt it be better to spend money going to the street people to talk about God rather to fly two people who have roofs over their heads and pc's (so Im assumming $$ and a job) to a vacation destination that many others will never experience ??

Not from my point of view it would not be better, no.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Not from my point of view it would not be better, no.

I see where your priorities are.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

It really doesn't. The only thing the Nicene Creed consistently declares is Christians believe in God and salvation through Christ and some versions don't even agree on that. The Bible isn't part of the Nicene Creed. I'm truly ashamed in all of you. Whether or not you agree, or even if we they aren't Christian, you can't treat them this way and do everything in your power to make it where they can't even have an argument. That's cheating, it's sick, and it's rather hypocritical.

 

[BAFRIEND]

I see where your priorities are.

I will witness to my fellow passengers during the flight, the ones flying in first class anyway.