So You Think Israel Is Finished?

[darkmast03]

Just read Revelation. It's obvious that they are still in God's plan. However, I still don't see how that rules out a post-Trib view. Could you clarify please.

 

[Hitch]

Just read Revelation. It's obvious that they are still in God's plan. However, I still don't see how that rules out a post-Trib view. Could you clarify please.

You mean this part?


Rev 1:1-3
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
(KJV)


It takes a strange literalism to find thousands of years on 'shortly to come to pass' and 'at ahnd' dont you think?

But you didnt ,and no on else, so far as I have seen has answered wrt the Apostolic application of holy nationhood upon the church. Perhaps you're the man for the job.


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Originally Posted by: Hitch

Well Hal enjoys a perfect record. all his major predictions have failed.

Is it true that the NT teaches that the church is;

The children of God ,,R 8;6

The household of God... E 2;9

The children of Abe...G 3;7

Abe's seed G 3;29

The children of the Promise... R 9;8

A people his own ,,,Ti 2;14

The elect of God.. Col 3;12

Heirs of God...R 8;17

Heirs according to the Promise... G 3;29

The temple of God...C 3;16

The circumcision...P 3;3

The Israel of God.. G 6;16

A chosen generation...Pete 2;9

A royal priesthood

An holy nation

A peculiar people

Heirs of the Kingdom... J 2;6

Kings and priest unto God.. Rev 1;6

The new Jerusalem Rev 3;12

The people of God;.,,, H 4;9

Mount Sion... H 12;22

the city of the living God

the heavenly Jerusalem


If the church makes up the heirs of the Kingdom, the people and nation of God, the royal priesthood, the elect ,the circumscsion , heirs according to the promise,,, what is left for the old nation?

Take care