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So Where Should I Start?

Polycarp1

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Okay, here I am. I'm a 55-year-old man, unafraid to look into new things. I grew up reading Marvel comics, and found their introduction of human foibles, needs, and feelings into superheroes to be a moving and interesting idea. I like characters that exhibit "human" traits like these. And I feel that violence has a place, but is vastly overdone in a lot of graphic work.

I like some parts of anime/manga graphic art conventions -- others don't appeal to me (for example, why half the characters' hair looks like they've just touched a high-voltage line! ;))

I'm not at all offended by tasteful, partially implied sexuality, including shounen-ai sorts of relationships. (Assuming I've gotten my terms accurate.)

But I have no idea where to begin reading, or sources to get the material (especially online) -- I live 25 miles from the nearest large city, and don't have a huge amount of excess disposable income to spend on it.

With all that in mind, I'm looking for suggestions from the animephiles here as to what I ought to read that is easily accessible and sort of fits my criteria. Where do I start?
 

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For anime:

1) If I were you, I would start off with anime movies before spending money on the series that are out there.

Any movie by Miyazaki is good (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Castle in the Sky). The Cowboy Bebop movie is very good, and requires no knowledge of the series. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust is a good 'dark' anime. "Ah! My Goddess!" is another good one that is sort of an action/romance (the movie is anyway).

2) After you have seen a few movies, and you have an idea of what you are partial to, you can start picking up OAVs (mini-series) and what I call "half season animes" (they only have 12 or 13 episodes/approx 3-4 DVDs).

Some good examples of these would be: "Samurai X: Trust and Betrayal" (lots of killing, but not mindless, beautiful artwork, and a compelling story). Ah! My Goddess was decent (if you liked the movie).

3) Only then would I reccomend any series, and even then you should wait for the 'cheap' versions to come out. Some animes are being re-released for $20 a piece instead of $25-30. Some (like Nadesico, my recomendation) are in little box sets that run about $50-70 for the entire 26 episode series.

As far as manga goes, I probably am not the person to ask, as I own very little of it. I would definately reccomend Rurouni Kenshin (this is the manga that "Samurai X' came from).

Hope that helps! (I really need to learn how to write a shorter post.)
 
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ok...your gonna NEED money to spend on anime, or you just wont enjoy it. but ebay is the best place to get the stuff, dont even bother to go to over priced comic stores and stuff.

well i would suggest:

Neon Genisis Evangelion - a different type of mecha anime, with a deep involving, dark storie. dynamic characters, and a twisted ...everything. this has been criticly aclaimed the best anime the world has ever seen.

Hellsing - if you like zobies and vampires and dessert eagles, this is for you.

Ruroini Kenshin - A increadible anime, but you may not want to buy it all, or buy, then sell. seeing as its over 70 eps long. ....and kinda... well, after eps ..67 i think, it kinda goes down hill from there.

Saber Marrionette J, and J-X - this is one of the most enjoyable anime's i have seen. light hearted, and fun. with funny and lovable characters.

whew, i cant think of any more, if i do, i will post them.
 
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I had an aquentance who was in his 50s that really liked Studio Ghibli films. It’s not to say that they are stereotyped for an older audience, since many of them are directed towards kids, but the stories tend to be more “personable”. Modern anime targeting teens a lot of times are a big push for Card games, and get really heavy into the fighting rather than a good story. Studio Ghibli films tend to be a little deeper with meaningful story plots (no bizarre spiky hair! LOL!), which is why I really like them a lot.

Here is a list of a few:

(1984) Nausicaä of the Valley of Wind
(1986) Laputa: Castle in the Sky
(1988) My Neighbor Totoro
(1988) Grave of the Fireflies
(1989) Kiki's Delivery Service
(1991) Only Yesterday
(1992) Porco Rosso
(1993) Ocean Waves (TV Movie)
(1994) Pom Poko
(1995) Whisper of the Heart
(1997) Princess Mononoke
(2001) Spirited Away
(2002) The Cat Returns

This is a good resource to learn more about these films: http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/films/
 
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Yes, yes, yes, the studio Ghibli films! My Neighbor Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service, Princess Mononoke, and Spirited Away are the most easily available in English; I would recommend all of them, but especially the latter two. "Mononoke" is a dark, bloody, environmentalist story of the war between forest spirits and industrializing humans, in an ancient Japan. That might be too violent--it has a shot of a guy getting his arm shot off with an arrow. "Spirited Away," which recently won an oscar for best animated film, is the story of a young girl who is spirited away to a mysterious land with her parents, who are turned into pigs. It has the same sort of environmentalist message, but it's a bit sweeter and more lighthearted, and at the same totally weird, almost like a Japanese version of "Alice in Wonderland." The ending is just beautiful. And there's a white dragon who is, like, totally hot! The art is amazing, and not too conventionally anime-ish.

"Utterly Weird"--
I love "Revolutionary Girl Utena," which may be the only postmodern symbolic feminist anime. Or at least the only one that does it with so much style. Orphan girl Utena is inspired to become a prince, and comes to a school that's controlled by a secretive, exclusive duelling society. The society duels for control of a submissive young girl, and Utena is determined to save her...but she may not want to be saved. Lots of stuff about sexuality, identity, being true to oneself. Moved me to tears when I wanted to be a prince myself. The sexuality stops being subtle or tasteful after about the first 14 episodes, to be completely honest--I can't recall any full frontal nudity, but there's heavily implied incest.

"Neon Genesis Evangelion" is, er, not as Christian as it might sound from the title, though it's all about using Christian symbology in really odd ways. In the future, Earth is under attack from mysterious "Angels." Only an angsty boy piloting a giant robot can save the world. So it starts off just like any other giant robot show...until suddenly it turns psychotic. In a good way. Or not. It's a love-it-or-hate-it thing.

In terms of the more conventional, "Vision of Escaflowne" is a beautifully done fantasy story with giant robots. A girl is transported to a magical land, where she meets various cute guys, and finds out that the world is in danger...but it manages not to be a cliche. It's all about fate, and love, and what it means to be in control of your own destiny. And the music. The music is shiveringly good.

And "Cowboy Bebop." Of course. You've got a varied cast of bounty hunters on a spaceship--including a hacker girl named Radical Edward and a Welsh Corgi. They never quite succeed at what they're doing, so they end up eating "beef and vegetables, without the beef," but they pull it off in such a charming way. There's a lot of lighthearted action here, but also deep melancholy and nostalgia towards the past; the mixing of western and science fiction genres perhaps indicates that the characters are stuck in the past, longing for a better future, but they can't live in the present. The jazzy score adds even more to the fun.

Oh, Matsumoto! My tastes are a little girly, but when I think of things that would appeal to a 55-year-old guy, Leiji Matsumoto's works come up. Probably "Arcadia of my Youth" is the most wonderful example of his work, but "Galaxy Express 999" is excellent, and "Queen Emeraldas" is fun. It's very classic, nostalgic, heroic, manly--it's space opera with a big heart. These are stories that are very self-consciously archetypal: Orphan Boy Makes Good. He always draws the same young orphan boys, the same glassy-beautiful women, the same heroic, battle-weary, eyepatched heroes, but it works.

That's all I can think of at the moment. I've been behind on my anime watching since I became a poor college student--these are all a bit old. ;)
 
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If you're looking for good anime that's low on the high-voltage hairdo, I'd go with Cowboy Bebop. It's a man's anime - I don't mean that in a sexist way, but it's more like what a middle aged man would watch.
Also, the movie is pretty deep and is very well made. A very good action movie, even compared to live-action stuff.

My favourite anime is FLCL. It is very whacky, very out of this world, and yet very realistic. The hair-do's and such are relatively real world - but the robots and the galactic battles kind of aren't. It's a comedy and it's a serious drama. It's a lot of things..

Still, a man of your age, I can only imagine, would be better off with something like Cowboy Bebop. Very mature, not a lot of out of this world stuff, and also it is very well-made.
Go with the movie, and if you like it, look into the show.

Also, a bit of a suggestion: If you can handle it, you'd be best off watching subs of Cowboy Bebop. While the dubs are great, you just can't beat the original Japanese of any anime.
 
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Oh, a bit more about FLCL.
The manga is really good.
The story is basically a whacked up coming of age story about an angsty Japanese kid. The characters are very unique, and all have a sense of realism. I think I'm going to go read Vol. 1 right now :D
 
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check my CF homepage, poly. Almost all of my favourite animes are listed in there with series infor and personal reflection attached.

I did see one episode of Kenshin when I was babysitting one set of grandkids who love Cartoon Network (? Nickelodeon?) where it was showing -- and thought it quite well done.

glad you like Kenshin, i've recommanded it to a friend who also likes anime, but due to cultural difference she just can't get into the Kenshin era. It's best to get as much infor as you can about an anime before buying it. Best to check out some reviews as well.

oh, BTW, here's a great anime infor site with reviews:
http://www.animenfo.com/index.php

just to add one good anime i forgot to put in my homepage.. "Scrapped Princess" of the fantasy/sci-fic genre. It's quite a touching anime.
 
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Well for sheer depth I enjoyed Lain, but that's probably not where you want to start up. It would be a bit like starting sailing by tackling the cape of good hope.

For just sheer brilliance it's hard not to enjoy Cowboy Bebop. I've heard some people say it's a guy's anime, and it does seem true that the majority of detractors are female (not that there are many). Anyway it's simply brilliant. Plus you can actually watch it dubbed if you want without physically cringing in pain (though my opinion of subs is starting to nosedive...).

Niea Under Seven is a great series you should also check out. It's a rather lighthearted anime about a girl trying to get into college, and living in a bathhouse that is perpeptually about to go out of buisness. Oh yeah, and her alien roommate (Niea). It is alternately sweet and hilarious. Niea herself is one of the most distinctive characters ever. The animation quality is good, and the presentation is superb. The opening theme should basically, well, if not explain the show at least present it (It's a japanese guy warbeling a bad country song - possibly the strangest opening to any anime ever (above even the notable Excel). Strangely the opening grows on you. Oh yeah, the anime never gets above PG in its content, despite the bathhouse (the only anime with a bathhouse to never use the it for fanservice I think). Can't comment on the dub, and I wouldn't take my chances with it.

P.S. No wierd anime hairstyles (ok Niea's hair is wierd, but, well, Niea).

Arcadia of my Youth is something I'll second Arikereba on. It is nostalgic, and deliberately so. It takes nothing away from this powerful epic.
 
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if you happen to get Cartoon Network (or some other anime channel) you could start watching stuff on that. I know that CN shows real anime (ak not cartoons) after 9 (PST) on weekdays (I think its 9 might be 10).

Me and some friends are rating anime for the fun of it and to help others and these have the highest scores

Series
1. Great Teacher Onizuko (haven't seen so can't comment
2. Cowboy Bebop (My favorate anime, good animation, has action, doesn't go completely overboard with it)
3. Lain (haven't seen)
4. Haibane Renmei (good anime, but its all drama, basically no action)
5. Last Exile (haven't seen)


Movies
1. Grave of the Fireslies
2. Princess Mononoke
 
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Well, not that I wan't to soud repetetive or anything but...

Rurouni Kenshin & Cowboy Bebop

You can also check out some of Rumiko Takashi's work (wonder if I remembered the name correctly... it being really late in the night and all... :D) like Ranma ½ and Inu Yasha.

Aslo check out Trigun. And if you are into sports or games check out Prince of Tennis and Hikaru no Go.
 
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SAint Mark said:
Well, not that I wan't to soud repetetive or anything but...

Rurouni Kenshin & Cowboy Bebop

You can also check out some of Rumiko Takashi's work (wonder if I remembered the name correctly... it being really late in the night and all... :D) like Ranma ½ and Inu Yasha.

Aslo check out Trigun. And if you are into sports or games check out Prince of Tennis and Hikaru no Go.

Definitely check out Trigun, Ruruoni Kenshin, and Cowboy Bebop, Poly-I'm sure you'd like all three of those. I might also recommend Gundam Wing (it's a long series, and I don't have all of it myself, if you can't afford anything else, check out Endless Waltz, the conclusion OAV/movie at least).

I can't believe I didn't see this thread. *swats self
 
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One of my favorites hasn't been mentioned-- the *edited* version of Outlaw Star, of course that is a series so fairly expensive. Outlaw is an action/adventure anime about a group of people who call themselves "Outlaws" that set out on their ship The Outlaw Star to discover its purpose, which is to reveal a powerful mystery known as the Galactic Leyline. The massively complex ship requires the aid of a special android called Melfina to fly. Melfina goes with the group to find out about her past, who she is, who made her, etc. Suzuka is the second member of the crew. She is a ninja/assasin of great skill and repute. She made a contract to kill a man called Fred lowe. The main character (Gene Starwind) was enlisted as Lowe's bodyguard and forced Suzuka into a draw in combat. She decided to follow him because she was interested in his abilities and personality. Third is the Kataro-Kataro Aschia Clan-Clan who follows Gene because she loses everything in an attempt to stop him. Jim Hawkings is Gene's friend and partner in business, who follows Gene whereve he goes. Gene himself goes because he promised to help Melfina discover who she is. The last member of the crew is the ship's computer, Gilliam, who provides information about the ship and all areas in its database to Gene.


As been said before-- online is the place to buy. places like discountdvd, ebay, etc.
 
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If you don't want to spend money, i recommend searching for a bit torrent client to use to download your anime. It's easy and safe. I recommend searching for a bit torrent client to download. Then, search "anime bit torrent" in a search engine like Google, DogPile or Yahoo! to find the torrent files. These are fan-subbed, meaning fans took the original japanese show and went to the trouble of translating the dialogue and subtitling it. It's easy, so i recommend at least checking out the site.
 
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Polycarp said:
I grew up reading Marvel comics
AHHHHHHHHHH! I eel for you man, Marvel has some of the worst superhero charecters EVER! You should have been into DC.


Best place to start, a bit more towards home.. I'll go with the good oldies of

Trigun
Blue gender
Rurouni Kensien
Banner of the Stars
Crest of the Stars
Big O

maybe put in a few to avoid....

FLCL
Last Exile
Cowbot Bebop


yeah, those are a few


For anime.. Turn to ebay.com.. Or another of the such
 
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Lyle said:
Best place to start, a bit more towards home.. I'll go with the good oldies of

Trigun
Blue gender
Rurouni Kensien
Banner of the Stars
Crest of the Stars
Big O



Hmmmm, they're good, but I wouldn't really consider those oldies....

Trigun and Kenshin are good places to start, but Blue Gender? Even the Cartoon Network version was graphic. And that was with a lot of the gore (and pretty much all sexual content) edited out.
 
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