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So when we die...
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Everybody Limbo Party!!!
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But seriously: Why would they need to wait God knows what their finaly judgement will be. Right?
http://www.soltec.net/~java/limbo.jpg
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But seriously: Why would they need to wait God knows what their finaly judgement will be. Right?
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MoonlessNight
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What Christian denomination holds this belief, if I might ask? Because I can't think of one off-hand (though if someone does believe it, it wouldn't surprise me.)CushBabylonian said:
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Well, the logical answer of what happens after death is that we fade into oblivion. Our brains appear to be the sole carrier of our thought. When signals in the brain stop, thinking stops.
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LIFE ONLY IN CHRIST
103. What is Man?
104. Eternal Life
105. The Two Resurrections
108. The Intermediate State
103. What is Man?
104. Eternal Life
105. The Two Resurrections
108. The Intermediate State
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Lillithspeak
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In my opinion: When you die you simply change from living in a corporeal body to your actual spirit existence until you decide what other experience you want to have. Maybe you'll take a break and just observe the various ways of experiencing and maybe you'll go right into another experience of a different type or even come back to this earthly existence. Either way, you don't die, you transform.
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Jesus said this in the Book of Luke. I have to find the verse though. I'll post when I find it.
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Patiently waiting
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MoonlessNight said:
I think, Seventh Day Adventist, believe that when you die you are asleep until the resurection (last day) comes. But I could be wrong.
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Salsa_1960
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Christ told one of the men on the cross, "Today you will be with me in Paradise."
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tcampen
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Anyone's guess is just as good as the next. There is no way to verify the answer to this question, just speculation and faith.
Maybe when we can successfully freeze dead people for a couple of months or years, then bring them back to life, will we have a better idea of what's beyond our physical life. But until such a day, nobody really knows. But we do hope.
Maybe when we can successfully freeze dead people for a couple of months or years, then bring them back to life, will we have a better idea of what's beyond our physical life. But until such a day, nobody really knows. But we do hope.
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Time is an abstract illusion created by those who cannot stand the thought of infinity.
Life after death will (I imagine) not be constrained to our earthly time
Life after death will (I imagine) not be constrained to our earthly time
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Some people have suggested that the dialog recorded in Luke 23:42, 43 indicates that the righteous go immediately to paradise when they die.sandinmyears said:
If so, in order for Christ to be true to His promise, both He and the thief would have had to make it to heaven before the sun set that very day.
Lets see if they actually did. First, did Jesus go to heaven that day? The Bible tells us that He did not. For when He was resurrected He said, I am not yet ascended to my Father (John 20:17).
So Jesus didnt go to heaven that day. What about the thief, did he? The Bible tells us in John 19:31-34 that at the end of the day the soldiers went and found the two thieves still hanging there on the cross, both still alive. Then they broke their legs and let them down off the cross for the Sabbath. So the thief didnt make it to heaven that day either.
Well then, did Jesus tell a lie? No. The problem is easily solved when we realize that when the Bible was written, there were no punctuation marks. Commas were added hundreds of years later when the Bible was translated into English. In Luke 23:43 the comma should have been placed after, rather than before, the word today. It actually reads, Verily I say unto thee today, thou shalt be with me in paradise.
Jesus promised him that day a promise He will not break. For when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him,... then shall the King say...Inherit the kingdom prepared for you (Matthew 25:31-34). For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works (Matthew 16:27).
And thats all the thief was asking for anyway. He didnt ask to go to heaven that day. He simply said, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom (Luke 23:42).
http://www.nisbett.com/difficult/nt-luk-23-43.htm
http://www.amazingdiscoveries.org/death-p5.html
http://www.tagnet.org/anotherviewpoint/Daniel/14ex2.htm
http://www.biblerevelations.org/soul&spiritualism/thief_on_the_cross.htm
http://www.preparingforeternity.com/br/br110.htm
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Jesus' good friend Lazarus died and was dead for three days. His body began to smell. In other words, he began to decay.
Jesus resurrected him, or rather brought him back to life.
Lazarus said not a word about the time he was dead. So, he truly was dead. The opposite of alive.
We can look forward to future with great joy when our dead loved ones are resurrected and brought back to life here on this earth, once it is restored to paradise conditions, after Armageddon which is the destruction of human governments, false religion, and wicked people.
Jesus resurrected him, or rather brought him back to life.
Lazarus said not a word about the time he was dead. So, he truly was dead. The opposite of alive.
We can look forward to future with great joy when our dead loved ones are resurrected and brought back to life here on this earth, once it is restored to paradise conditions, after Armageddon which is the destruction of human governments, false religion, and wicked people.
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ej said:Time is an abstract illusion created by those who cannot stand the thought of infinity.
Life after death will (I imagine) not be constrained to our earthly time
you took the words off my keboard! I believe this, God is beyond our understanding and beyond how we perceive time
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vajradhara
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Namaste all,
i've heard the evangelical presbyterians say this as well... i.e. a "sleep" time for all being before judgement. from what i was able to discern, they felt that this applied to all beings and there was no passage of time for them whilst they were dead.
in other words, everyone has judgement day on the same day.
i've heard the evangelical presbyterians say this as well... i.e. a "sleep" time for all being before judgement. from what i was able to discern, they felt that this applied to all beings and there was no passage of time for them whilst they were dead.
in other words, everyone has judgement day on the same day.
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ObbiQuiet
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The belief that my father has is that everyone gets into heaven at the same time - that at the time that Peter gets to heaven is the same as you. There is no time in heaven, at least not one that matches up with earthy time. Basically, everyone observes an instant transition from earth to heaven all at once.
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