"So what?"

[BPPLEE]

Then why did you edit it to make it clear?

So no one else would try to twist it like you did

 

[rjs330]

AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals

You realize they are talking about leftist radicals belonging to leftist radical organizations. That has nothing to do with leftists rioting. Need we mention that Antifa doesn't have a membership organization? You arrest a white leftist rhey are not announcing they belong to ANTIFA and a member of a radical organization. You are smart guy. You understand this.

I'll give this to the left. They are way smarter that the stupid white supremacists who like to put together an organization with leaders and such. It makes it easy to identify them. The far left radicals are like terrorist cells with no real organization with members and they generally don't identify individuals as members. Pretty smart really.

 

[The Barbarian]

You realize they are talking about leftist radicals belonging to leftist radical organizations.

What part of "aren’t leftist radicals" do you not understand? Read the article again.

That has nothing to do with leftists rioting.

As you see, the record shows that the rioting was mostly by white supremacists and other right-wing terrorists. Would you like me to show you again?

You arrest a white leftist rhey are not announcing they belong to ANTIFA and a member of a radical organization.

Antifa is not actually an organization. It's a political movement, with no membership. Police identify them by their objectives and behavior. There are also white supremacists like that, but many of them belong to identifiable groups.

The far left radicals are like terrorist cells with no real organization with members and they generally don't identify individuals as members. Pretty smart really.

Actually, if one is a terrorist like the right-wing people trying to incite riots at those marches, it doesn't take a high IQ to realize this. But as one old sheriff observed, the good thing about criminals is, most of them aren't very smart.

 

[The Barbarian]

Then why did you edit it to make it clear?

So no one else would try to twist it like you did

If you go back and read it the way you had it originally, it is very misleading. I misunderstood what you meant, because of that. And the fact that you edited it shows you were aware it was ambiguous. It's why I quote things like that, to make sure.

 

[BPPLEE]

Then why did you edit it to make it clear?


If you go back and read it the way you had it originally, it is very misleading. I misunderstood what you meant, because of that. And the fact that you edited it shows you were aware it was ambiguous. It's why I quote things like that, to make sure.

Okay

 

[The Barbarian]

Irs even debatable that they started the riot. One guy gets a whole riot going? I'm not buying it.

Turns out, there were BLM members in the area, and they started videoing the white supremacist and yelling at him about his vandalism, some accusing him of trying to incite rioting. Turns out, he was successful:

After the man smashed the AutoZone's windows, it was set on fire, leading to days of looting and rioting that caused about $500 million in damages and killed two people, the Star Tribune report said.

Minneapolis 'Umbrella Man' who smashed windows during George Floyd protests was a white supremacist trying to incite riots, police say

Looting and rioting in the wake of his actions in Minneapolis caused about $500 million in damages and two deaths, the Star Tribune reported.

www.businessinsider.in

 

[Hans Blaster]

Your post in the January 6th thread
"Is defendant Trump trying ensure additional charges after he loses? The current "So What?" thread (about Trump's disregard for the safety of VP Pence) has degenerated into a "whatabout" thread on "BLM".

What I said was true. This thread has devolved into "what about"ism regarding "BLM" as do so many attempts to excusify Jan 6th and the "inciting a riot" seems like a plausible charge for Defendant Trump.

 

[BPPLEE]

What I said was true. This thread has devolved into "what about"ism regarding "BLM" as do so many attempts to excusify Jan 6th and the "inciting a riot" seems like a plausible charge for Defendant Trump.

Yet you participated

 

[Hans Blaster]

Yet you participated

And I have been for a while in this thread. That's why I keep getting notifications of new posts.

 

[rjs330]

Turns out, there were BLM members in the area, and they started videoing the white supremacist and yelling at him about his vandalism, some accusing him of trying to incite rioting. Turns out, he was successful:

After the man smashed the AutoZone's windows, it was set on fire, leading to days of looting and rioting that caused about $500 million in damages and killed two people, the Star Tribune report said.

Minneapolis 'Umbrella Man' who smashed windows during George Floyd protests was a white supremacist trying to incite riots, police say

Looting and rioting in the wake of his actions in Minneapolis caused about $500 million in damages and two deaths, the Star Tribune reported.

www.businessinsider.in

Oh I see the Tribune said he was solely responsible for the riot. Well that settles it then. Except that all he did was break a window and people chased him away. Doesn't sound like he started a riot to me. Sounds like he ran off.

It sounds like the riots started later. I'm still not buying that one guy started nights of rioting cause he broke a window and was chased off. It's nonsensical.

 

[BPPLEE]

Oh I see the Tribune said he was solely responsible for the riot. Well that settles it then. Except that all he did was break a window and people chased him away. Doesn't sound like he started a riot to me. Sounds like he ran off.

It sounds like the riots started later. I'm still not buying that one guy started nights of rioting cause he broke a window and was chased off. It's nonsensical.

There was no evidence, however, that white supremacists were causing violence at any of the protests, the document said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...rotest-violence-not-extremists-idUSKBN23A1MZ/

 

[The Barbarian]

Oh I see the Tribune said he was solely responsible for the riot. Well that settles it then. Except that all he did was break a window and people chased him away.

And he wrote grafitti, inviting people to loot and burn. BLM marchers ran him off, but his plan worked; the store was looted and torched as he intended.

 

[The Barbarian]

There was no evidence, however, that white supremacists were causing violence at any of the protests, the document said.

As you know, the "umbrella man" was a white supremacist who actively incited a spate of looting and arson. The article was debunking the Trump administrations false claims that left-wing radicals were to blame. From your link:

President Donald Trump has blamed left wing extremist groups for instigating nights of looting and violence in cities across the United States, but an intelligence assessment offers limited evidence that organized extremists are behind the turmoil.
...
The part of the document seen by Reuters did not provide any specific evidence of extremist-driven violence, but noted that white supremacists were working online to increase tensions between protesters and law enforcement by calling for acts of violence against both groups.

 

[rjs330]

And he wrote grafitti, inviting people to loot and burn. BLM marchers ran him off, but his plan worked; the store was looted and torched as he intended.

Since there were days of rioting by BLM supporters including arson in a number of places, you are hard pressed to prove that this building burned solely because this guy broke a window and was chased away.

 

[BPPLEE]

As you know, the "umbrella man" was a white supremacist who actively incited a spate of looting and arson. The article was debunking the Trump administrations false claims that left-wing radicals were to blame. From your link:

President Donald Trump has blamed left wing extremist groups for instigating nights of looting and violence in cities across the United States, but an intelligence assessment offers limited evidence that organized extremists are behind the turmoil.
...
The part of the document seen by Reuters did not provide any specific evidence of extremist-driven violence, but noted that white supremacists were working online to increase tensions between protesters and law enforcement by calling for acts of violence against both groups.

And you intentionally left out the next line
There was no evidence, however, that white supremacists were causing violence at any of the protests, the document said.

 

[DaisyDay]

Since there were days of rioting by BLM supporters including arson in a number of places, you are hard pressed to prove that this building burned solely because this guy broke a window and was chased away.

Except that you don't actually know that the rioters were BLM supporters or you would have posted some corroboration.

How does this excuse Donald's callousness towards his own VP?

Apparently, Sen. Grassley was waiting in the wings to perform the act of treason Pence refused.

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Grassley suggests he may preside over Senate debate on Electoral College votes • Iowa Capital Dispatch

Sen. Chuck Grassley, Senate president pro tempore, suggested he may preside over the U.S. Senate debate regarding counting Electoral College votes.

iowacapitaldispatch.com

 

[DaisyDay]

And you intentionally left out the next line
There was no evidence, however, that white supremacists were causing violence at any of the protests, the document said.

Proud Boys aren't white supremacists - they have Latino and Samoan members - but merely violent right-wing semi-militia group that likes to rumble with Antifa and cause chaos at demonstrations.

 

[BPPLEE]

Proud Boys aren't white supremacists - they have Latino and Samoan members - but merely violent right-wing semi-militia group that likes to rumble with Antifa and cause chaos at demonstrations.

I thought Proud Boys were at the Capitol riot, they were at the BLM riots too?

 

[DaisyDay]

I thought Proud Boys were at the Capitol riot, they were at the BLM riots too?

Particularly Portland as they had an ongoing beef with Rose City Antifa. Yes, they were involved in riots in 2020 and in previous years. Why do you think that they were specifically named as a right wing group that Donald was asked to request they "stand down"? Of course, Donald famously changed the request to "stand back and stand by".

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-chris-wallace-0b32339da25fbc9e8b7c7c7066a1db0f

 

[The Barbarian]

There was no evidence, however, that white supremacists were causing violence at any of the protests, the document said.

And yet I showed you several instances where they did. In two cases, they instigated violence by committing acts of violence. And yes, not all right-wing terrorists are white supremacists.