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I didn’t ask for scripture references, those that’s fine to support what you think. What is YOUR understanding of those who sin intentionally without repentance?
The New Covenant is a totally new and different covenant. It's not partly new, it's totally new.
Paul says not only are we delivered from the law, but even says to throw it out. Rom 7:6,
Indeed we are in the NEW COVENANT now we are saved by GRACE through faith in God's WORD *EPHESIANS 2:8; JOHN 3:15-21. No one is telling you that we are saved by the law. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.Gal 4:30. We're not children of the bond woman (the law). Paul warns others about returning to the law saying it will void their salvation. Gal 5:2
JAMES 2:18-20 [18], Yes, a man may say, You have faith, and I have works: show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.James says nothing about a requirement to keep the law or doing works of the law. Read the whole chapter which reveals works being those of respect and charity.
Indeed they are and they are all in relation to the ANNUAL FEAST DAYS. You do know that is the point right?These are lists of religious requirements.
Nope not at all. If the scriptures were talking about God's 4th commandment SEVENTH DAY SABBATH, then they would have said Sabbath (singular) and not SABBATHS (plural) as SABBATH in God's WORD is defined as the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEKSabbaths is plural because of the great number of weekly sabbaths in a year.
There is no misleading on my behalf. As shown through God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. You are mixing up the SHADOW cermonial laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's ETERNAL LAW in the NEW COVENANT that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20.Who do you think you're trying to mislead? The famous 10 are part of the Book of the Law - Mosaic Book of the Covenant.
Your confused here. The ANNUAL FEASTS were determined by a luna cycle. God's 4th Commandment sabbath however is every SEVENTH DAY of the week which is a continual weekly cycle.The annual ceremonies were determined by the lunar calendar as the sabbath was. Arguments about Passover are based on the Gregorian solar calendar. So does the weekly sabbath.
Your just repeating yourself here brother. I would refer you back to post # 103 linked; post # 104 linked and post # 126 linked.Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. This was spoken to people observing the weekly sabbath that didn't have this rest it pointed to. No I'm not mixing anything. You're mixing and combining the covenants. Col 2:16-17 clearly calls the weekly sabbaths shadows you claim are done away with just like Paul.Those posts have been dealt with many times by Scripture.So was the weekly sabbath
We do indeed read different bibles. Mine says this; click me. What does yours say?There's not a single passage in the NT requiring the keeping of any of the law.
Christians are indeed righteouss if they have been forgiven by faith and have been BORN AGAIN to walk in God's Spirit *1 JOHN 3:3-10; GALATIANS 5:16. God's LAW is the very standard of what rightouesness is *PSALMS 119:172. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50. We follow God's WORD because we LOVE GOD not because we are saved by what we do. We are saved by GRACE through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God *EPHESIANS 2:8. No christian is righteouss while living a life on known unrepentant sin because they are stil in their sins. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT, all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.By saying Christians are obligated to the law your claim is also Christians are wicked. The Scripture identifies Christians as righteous even though they sin. Rom 4.
But how can you know what sin is if you as you say in your own words we are to throw away God's LAW when it is God's WORD that says it is God's LAW in the NEW COVENANT that gives us the knowledge of what sin is *1 JOHN 3:4; ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7? Are you contradicting yourself here?No I'm not endorsing sin nor teaching we can live a life style of sin
God's Covenants have changed. God's LAW (10 commandments) however are eternal and do not change *PSALMS 119:142-143; PSALMS 119:172; PSALMS 119:160; ECCLESIASTES; 3:14; EXODUS 32:16, ISAIAH 40:8; EXODUS 20:1-17; 1 PETER 1:25; LUKE 21:33. God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT says God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) gives us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNES *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.God changed the rules (covenant). So the famous 10 aren't eternal even for Israel. The law did its job and no longer has a task. Gal 3:24-25
Only because they're ignored.
I think you said something about him hiding in his closed thread. He steadfastly refuses to discuss any ones post that doesn't agree with him.
Indeed. This is something that we can agree on. If our eyes are not open we cannot see the Garden of Eden or the paradise of God. Sin closes our eyes and makes us blind but seeking Jesus can open the blind eyes to see and the deaf to hear. How can we know what sin is if we have no law when it is God's LAW (10 Commandments) that give us the knowledge of what sin is *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4?I think we have the same Bibles. We just follow different leaders.
Only sent in love and as a help but the answers to your questions in this post are already answered in the very post and scriptures you are quoting from. I suggest you read them.What exactly is "His rest?" Is it the weekly sabbath they kept? How seeing they couldn't enter that rest even though they kept the 7th day sabbath. Why would Jesus extend His invitation found in Mat 11:28-30 to people already observing the weekly repose from working? Neither your idea from Hebrews nor Jesus' invitation support you idea. Heb 4 doesn't mention the sabbath. Nor is it claiming to promote any holy day.The word in Gen 2 is "shabath" a verb which is also used to say the sabbath will cease. God didn't take a periodic rest and return to work as Genesis indicates.This quote is from the polluted Aramaic.The word used is "sabbatismos." This isn't a reference to the the weekly sabbath. The word "sabbaton" isn't found in Heb 4. There's also no implication about the sabbath. Sabbatismos isn't a Greek transliteration of the Hebrew shabbath.No it isn't. It's a typology word. The 7th day sabbath doesn't provide the rest of God, He swore they would never enter. They kept the 7th day sabbath.There is no basis for this found in Scripture.
How about you just give me an answer in your words. Then support with scripture if you’d like. Just like your other posts. I assume that this is important to you. And I assume you want to speak truth. So here’s an opportunity to be very clear.You asked for short posts. The scriptures are very clear and answer your question directly and need no explanation on my behalf.
If you do not understand them perhaps you can pray about them. * HEBREWS 6:4-8; HEBREWS 10:26-27; MATTHEW 7:23-24; ROMANS 8:13; GALATIANS 5:19-21; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:3-10; 1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10; GALATIANS 5:19-21; EPHESIANS 5:6; COLOSSIANS 3:6.
If you like maybe you can tell me what these scriptures mean to you and how do you think they answer your question?
God bless.
How about you just give me an answer in your words. Then support with scripture if you’d like. Just like your other posts. I assume that this is important to you. And I assume you want to speak truth. So here’s an opportunity to be very clear.
It seems to me that you do not believe so.I have already given you my answer supported by the scriptures posted what do you think they mean? Do you believe someone is in a saved state before God, while continuing in known unrepentant sin?
It seems to me that you do not believe so.
Is that correct?
Why are you avoiding giving me a straight answer? That’s not like you.What do the scriptures say that were posted? Is someone in a saved state before God, while continuing in known unrepentant sin or an unsaved state before God? * HEBREWS 6:4-8; HEBREWS 10:26-27; MATTHEW 7:23-24; ROMANS 8:13; GALATIANS 5:19-21; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:3-10; 1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10; GALATIANS 5:19-21; EPHESIANS 5:6; COLOSSIANS 3:6.
God bless.
Why are you avoiding giving me a straight answer? That’s not like you.
If you read the account of when Paul visited Jerusalem and conferred with the Apostles in the wake of Jewish "apostles" invading Gentile churches, teaching them that they have to comply with the Law of Moses and be circumcised, there were three things that they all agreed on that were requirements for Gentile Christians. Note that keeping the Saturday Sabbath was not one of them. So, according to the Apostles, who were God's authority for the church, Gentile believers were not required to keep the Jewish Sabbath at all.
The main reason why the believers in Jerusalem kept the Sabbath, was that Saturday was the only holiday. Sunday was a working day. But not necessarily so in pagan Gentile societies. We don't know what day they had off, but presumably it was not the Jewish Sabbath.
So, if you want to usurp the authority of the Apostles as shown in Acts, you are free to do so, but don't automatically expect the Holy Spirit to agree with you when you make it a requirement of all believers. He might view you as a false teacher, adding to God's word and the guidelines that the Holy Spirit gave to the Apostles and Paul as the outcome of their conference.
There is nothing to stop you observing Saturday as your day of worship. God doesn't really care. But if you start belting people over the head with upper case comments about how everyone should observe the Saturday Sabbath or else, then you might find yourself contending with God Himself. Good luck on that one!
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