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I was reading Romans and I found this. I thought of our current world. You see so many evolutionists on the rise worshipping their creation and claiming it to be their creator. Directly underneath that you have a mention of homosexuality, lesbian and gay. I thought it was so profound I had to share. I've been leaning faithlessly lately. I nearly turned completely atheist, but these verses gave me second thoughts.

Ro 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
 

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Yes, they are. God used men to speak his words.

That's the basis of Christianity and most other religions. They are profound words nevertheless, wouldn't you say?

The very idea that you yourself are doing exactly what those verses say?

"23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things."

That's macroevolution right there. An uncorruptible god into a corrupt and changing world, yes? A world with no identity but a constantly molding one as our creator.
 
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The author of Romans was refering to the alegorical representation of deities as animal, or human-animal chimeras. He was not talking about "macro-evolution."

A changeable nature is that what enables you to be alive at all. If God saw fit that nature be changeable, who are you to disagree? You may not realize it yet, but your preoccupation with "unchangeability", "stability" and all these absolutes, are a preoccupation with death. Life is unstable and dynamic, and that makes the difference between life and death in this world.

They are profound words indeed; too bad they fall on deaf creationists' ears.
 
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Dear condescending adult,

It doesn't matter what he was referring to at the time because it is repetitive and appears under distinctly similar faces.

"If God saw fit"...well, he didn't...he created a corrupt world that decays and creates identities, souls, that each are given an option, a brain, to come to their own conclusion of him. Atheism is worship of creation. Creation is your creator. Stability does not come from a corrupt world and is only found through the rock and shelter of Christ. He is unchanging and he is one. He has one identity, beginning and ending. It's symbolic and has no grounding, no facts, no sensuality. It's the truth. It's a spirit.
 
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Dear condescending adult,

It doesn't matter what he was referring to at the time because it is repetitive and appears under distinctly similar faces.

O.K. So be it, if that's what you want to read into it.

electroid said:
Atheism is worship of creation. Creation is your creator.

We are merely studying "creation". We aren't worshipping it. Also, evolution does not equal atheism. I just believe in one god less than you do.

electroid said:
Stability does not come from a corrupt world and is only found through the rock and shelter of Christ.

electroid said:
He is unchanging and he is one. He has one identity, beginning and ending. It's symbolic and has no grounding, no facts, no sensuality. It's the truth. It's a spirit.

I may be condescending, but I will not comment your faith. If you have any questions about evolution, I and a host of other people here will gladly answer them. Then it's up to you. At least you should know what you're arguing against, before you do.
 
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"If God saw fit"...well, he didn't...he created a corrupt world that decays and creates identities, souls, that each are given an option, a brain, to come to their own conclusion of him. Atheism is worship of creation.

No it isn't. Atheism is a lack of theism. We've heard of these God things and we don't believe they're real. In most cases, you don't either. Calling atheism the worship of creation is as wrong as me calling Christianity the worship of crosses.


It's a story. It's a nice story, if you like that sort of thing. It may even be a true story. However, if it is true, and the story disagrees with the evidence it's not supposed to be taken literally.

After all, who made the universe in your world? Are you calling him a liar? Do you think, perhaps, that he left a lot of evidence lying around to trick us into not believing in him?

The passage in Romans has nothing to do with evolution. It has a lot to do with the worshipping practices of people Paul didn't much care for.
 
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Here's a copy and pasting of my "knowledge" on evolution and my antithesis that I debated on another forum.


The list goes on. Please, break this down and comment. I seek your enlightenment. It would make an excellent addition to the rest of my evolutionist babble heap.
 
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To be sure:

1. Nobody wants to add to your "evolutionist babble heap."

2. Nobody here wants to "impress" you in any way. We're not dating on this forum.

3. Unless you come off your "absent-minded girlfriend" attitude, we will not have a serious discussion with you.

What you posted so far shows zero knowledge of the subject matter. I would say you have to do your homework first before anybody takes you seriously.

Godspeed!
 
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Ah. So not really.
No, it would. Seriously. I collect them.

Here's another one against evolution and creation. I do doubt both. That seems strange but I do, lol.
 
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The list goes on. Please, break this down and comment. I seek your enlightenment. It would make an excellent addition to the rest of my evolutionist babble heap.

I dont hve time to wade through content obviously taken straight out of Kent Hovinds seminars but I did see his while scanning:

""Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things..."

Lovely little slip, wouldn't you say?

Darwin says that."

My dear, that isnt Darwin, thats Steven J Gould. Its a responce to Creationists claiming that Evolution is "only a theory".

the fossils found mean we came from monkies millions of years back, I say it doesn't, and the fossils remain fossils no matter what theory you want to interpret from
You can say what you like but that doesnt mean its correct without evidence.
 
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Again, irrelevant to the subject material being presented.

I'm sorry. I really want to talk to you, if you answer me just one question.

Here goes:
What is evolution and what are its mechanisms? Please give me a concise and simple answer to that.

We'll take it from there.
 
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