So much for "teach the controversy" - Do YEC's condone this?

[Vance]

Over at "An Evangelical Dialogue on Evolution" (a great site, by the way), there is a very interesting story about Richard Colling, a biology professor at Olivet Nazarene University, who also happens to be a Christian who accepts that God used evolution as part of His creative work. He wrote a very good book entitled "Random Designer" which I have read and highly recommend. As a result of the book and his position on evolution, some board members tried to get him fired, which was not successful, but now it seems he is being banned from teaching the introductory biology class that he has taught for a very long time. You can read the entire article here, and it is well worth the effort:

http://evanevodialogue.blogspot.com/...evolution.html

Are these folks trying to shut down Mr. Colling the same who cry out that schools should "teach the controversy"? Keep in mind that Mr. Colling was not violating any university policy, and the university itself does not take any official stand on the issue. I am sympathetic with a university board needing to keep peace with its constituency, especially the donors, but doing the right thing should always take priority.

 

[fuerein]

I was actually attending Olivet when his book was published. It did a good job of dividing those students who were aware of the book (most were generally unaware or ambivalent to the book). Personally the response was overdrawn especially considering the Nazarene church has no official stance on the issue of evolution/creation. While there were several vocal members of the board/professors were against the book, President Bowling as well as several other members of the administration supported his right to publish the book. They even allowed him to offer a series of after-hours lectures for interested students/members of the community.

 

[juvenissun]

Over at "An Evangelical Dialogue on Evolution" (a great site, by the way), there is a very interesting story about Richard Colling, a biology professor at Olivet Nazarene University, who also happens to be a Christian who accepts that God used evolution as part of His creative work. He wrote a very good book entitled "Random Designer" which I have read and highly recommend. As a result of the book and his position on evolution, some board members tried to get him fired, which was not successful, but now it seems he is being banned from teaching the introductory biology class that he has taught for a very long time. You can read the entire article here, and it is well worth the effort:

http://evanevodialogue.blogspot.com/...evolution.html

Are these folks trying to shut down Mr. Colling the same who cry out that schools should "teach the controversy"? Keep in mind that Mr. Colling was not violating any university policy, and the university itself does not take any official stand on the issue. I am sympathetic with a university board needing to keep peace with its constituency, especially the donors, but doing the right thing should always take priority.

The way I do in my school is that I try my best to attack the atheistic evolution teachings by pure scientific arguments. it is actually a very easy thing to do if one just want to put bullet holes on any of the current scientific understandings.

It is kind of interesting to see that in the secular science field, people buried their heads into their own researches. Unless the content conflicts directly, one seldom attack the science done by others across the refined disciplines (within one department).

 

[Vance]

The way I do in my school is that I try my best to attack the atheistic evolution teachings by pure scientific arguments. it is actually a very easy thing to do if one just want to put bullet holes on any of the current scientific understandings.

It is kind of interesting to see that in the secular science field, people buried their heads into their own researches. Unless the content conflicts directly, one seldom attack the science done by others across the refined disciplines (within one department).

That is why it is so important to recognize that those doing actual science in the fields directly relevant to evolution (as you point out, those who *would* say "hey, wait a minute!") all agree that life evolved over billions of years from common ancestors, and about 99.85% of those specialists think that the current theory of evolution is the best explanation for that phenomenon. The very, very few who have issues with the theory, like Behe or Denton, still accept that the phenomenon occurred.

 

[Molal]

The way I do in my school is that I try my best to attack the atheistic evolution teachings by pure scientific arguments. it is actually a very easy thing to do if one just want to put bullet holes on any of the current scientific understandings.

It is kind of interesting to see that in the secular science field, people buried their heads into their own researches. Unless the content conflicts directly, one seldom attack the science done by others across the refined disciplines (within one department).

If it is that easy, why don't you supply me your evidence against evolution and I will help you write a paper for submittal to a science journal?