So lets be grown up & talk about OBOB, articles, etc.

[Eretria90]

Well it goes without saying that I think Michie's positively awesome and a really neat poster. That's a given!

Most folks who hate hearing about homosexuality on here are the pro-"gay marriage" crowd. Just an observation.

Personally, I think discussing the same-sex attraction community takeover of our country is quite pertinent to OBOB. Why? Because most of us cannot discuss this in the public sphere without being completely blacklisted, loathed, mocked, and even fired from our jobs!

In California, homosexual history is now law for the classroom. We teachers are compelled to teach it. In my neck of the woods and in most of CA, we haven't heard boo about it and nothing is being taught. But with the new adoptions of history books in the next few years, it will doubtless be in there!

Teachers are being fired for voicing their opposition to the same-sex attraction community's takeover of our country. People are losing jobs over it.

On Facebook, companies, school districts, counties, and other industries are using this social media spot to find out who is not a "true believer" of the new secular humanist morality.

Although my response may not be on topic in this thread (I posted my response far earlier) I agree with everything you are saying.

I have been using FB for a while now but I rarely ever post anything on my wall of great importance or opinion. If I were to express my religious or political views I would probably be blasted from every direction by "friends" (who, as far as I know, are all agnostics/atheists/non-practicing Jews and very liberal or Democrat). I'm sure all us FB users know about the red "=" profile photos that everyone is changing to.

EVERYONE is posting about same sex marriage and jumping on the bandwagon of support. Apparently, it's an issue now dealing with the "Human Rights Campaign." I don't know if people know what "human rights" are. Just because someone may disagree with same-sex marriage but love people who have SSA (my best friend has SSA) doesn't mean we should be fired from our jobs. Apparently, we can now be fired for voicing our opinion. I wonder what will be next...fired because of our views on abortion (I know it's already happened)? Fired because we are Christians (already has happened)? I'm just talking about normal conversations not heated arguments. The western world is stupid and so is the media.

How long before our churches will be forced into doing same-sex marriages? I'm not sure what the laws are regarding same-sex marriage in other states and how those affect churches. Same-sex marriage was going to be passed in my state (if it hasn't already, I haven't bothered keeping track) and we were told the bill would prevent churches from being penalized if they refused to do same-sex marriages. For some reason, I find that very hard to believe.

The government (or any government in general) really needs to stop defining what they think "marriage" is. They apparently already know when human life begins too. I wonder who I will trust on this one, the Church or a worldly institution?

Good post. And I agree, this is an important issue that should be freely discussed in OBOB.

 

[Sumwear]

my feelings regarding the matter is that it's very much akin to people on imdb complaining about a show. they complain and say that the network should just cancel the show. they portray it as if that one channel is all they have to work with. what other reasoning would there be to complain about canceling a show? if you don't like the show, don't watch it. turn the channel. there is a choice.

much like with these forums or any forum for that matter. don't like the threads? don't comment on them.

 

[FriendlyJosh]

Although my response may not be on topic in this thread (I posted my response far earlier) I agree with everything you are saying.

I have been using FB for a while now but I rarely ever post anything on my wall of great importance or opinion. If I were to express my religious or political views I would probably be blasted from every direction by "friends" (who, as far as I know, are all agnostics/atheists/non-practicing Jews and very liberal or Democrat). I'm sure all us FB users know about the red "=" profile photos that everyone is changing to.

EVERYONE is posting about same sex marriage and jumping on the bandwagon of support. Apparently, it's an issue now dealing with the "Human Rights Campaign." I don't know if people know what "human rights" are. Just because someone may disagree with same-sex marriage but love people who have SSA (my best friend has SSA) doesn't mean we should be fired from our jobs. Apparently, we can now be fired for voicing our opinion. I wonder what will be next...fired because of our views on abortion (I know it's already happened)? Fired because we are Christians (already has happened)? I'm just talking about normal conversations not heated arguments. The western world is stupid and so is the media.

How long before our churches will be forced into doing same-sex marriages? I'm not sure what the laws are regarding same-sex marriage in other states and how those affect churches. Same-sex marriage was going to be passed in my state (if it hasn't already, I haven't bothered keeping track) and we were told the bill would prevent churches from being penalized if they refused to do same-sex marriages. For some reason, I find that very hard to believe.

The government (or any government in general) really needs to stop defining what they think "marriage" is. They apparently already know when human life begins too. I wonder who I will trust on this one, the Church or a worldly institution?

Good post. And I agree, this is an important issue that should be freely discussed in OBOB.

It's really saddening where things are and leading too. What i've found is a lot of pro-gay marriage bandwagon jumpers use the "at one time our marriage was illegal too" pics/concept showing a black and a white person married. So everyone see's that, think they're righteous and starts looking down on anyone who doesn't agree. The thing is they're not even remotely the same, the racism thing is based off mans ignorance and wasn't right, but same sex marriage however goes against what The Lord commands. It's my understanding many protestant/non-denominational Christian churches are allowing/even supporting same sex marriages and I pray that if it's The Lords will that The Catholic Church stands firm on their stance not to. I really think this is just the start though, society as a whole seems to be getting really desensitized to many things and I can picture in the future more of these horrible concepts being imposed on everyone. From marriage to animals, to incest being ok, and more and more gay couples(male or female) being pushed on the mass media. Even cartoons taking part in gay marriages so that little kids know it's "OK" from an early age...sigh.

With that said I have absolutely nothing against those who gay, i'm in no way, shape or form better than them and never will be. We're all created equal. I know many of them must struggle constantly with their sexual orientation, read about many suicides and families disowning them. I think that's incredibly sad as they're people just like everyone else, worthy of love and acceptance. But that doesn't mean they should be able to take something sacred like marriage and twist it and pervert it to conform to their desires. Nor should those who stand firm against such things be punished by society. It's all in God's hands however and i take comfort in that, because I know The Lords Will, will be done. It's also possible we're in, or heading into the end times, you never know.

 

[mark46]

Do we need food threads here too?

Well it goes without saying that I think Michie's positively awesome and a really neat poster. That's a given!

Most folks who hate hearing about homosexuality on here are the pro-"gay marriage" crowd. Just an observation.

Personally, I think discussing the same-sex attraction community takeover of our country is quite pertinent to OBOB. Why? Because most of us cannot discuss this in the public sphere without being completely blacklisted, loathed, mocked, and even fired from our jobs!

In California, homosexual history is now law for the classroom. We teachers are compelled to teach it. In my neck of the woods and in most of CA, we haven't heard boo about it and nothing is being taught. But with the new adoptions of history books in the next few years, it will doubtless be in there!

Teachers are being fired for voicing their opposition to the same-sex attraction community's takeover of our country. People are losing jobs over it.

On Facebook, companies, school districts, counties, and other industries are using this social media spot to find out who is not a "true believer" of the new secular humanist morality.

If a Catholic, or in my case, Orthodox Christian who loves Catholicism and Catholics, cannot speak about this issue here, well, we're running out of places to discuss it. And it needs to be discussed.

And some people blasted the notion of discussing Vatican II and its potential pitfalls. Why?

I think one thing I see in OBOB that is lacking is some fun. There are no "favorite TV shows" or "favorite movies" or "greatest guitar player ever?" or "name your top ten favorite songs" types of threads. It's all business. A little fun would do a lot.

I also observe far left and far right go out of their way to provoke each other on here. In Catholicism, there is no far left or far right. An ideal pope ticks off both extremes...as he should!

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Well, I gave up the forums during Lent, so I wasn't participating in this thread or the other one.

However, I'm happy to see the issue being addressed.

I have no problem with seeing Catholic news articles and opinions posted in new threads, if they're not just from some person's blog, but from a credible
Catholic theologian and such.

The problem I have, is seeing 12 new threads opened by one person alone, thereby burying any other threads that people open.

Yes it happens and I've brought this up publicly before and also addressed the administrators asking for a rule to be put in place that a daily limit on how many new threads one person may open per day. Two, should be the limit. This doesn't count replies inside threads, just newly opened threads.

However, if we could just be respectful to other participants of this forum, we wouldn't need a regulation with moderator oversight to make this happen.

Just be aware that if you flood the forum with new threads, you're limiting other people's participation.

Don't push other threads off the page by opening new threads, just because you don't agree with them, or feel your information is more important than what others desire to share or discuss.

It's akin to you doing all the talking at a social gathering, not allowing others to get a word in edge wise.

The bottom line is have some common courtesy for others.

Also, pray before you post.


Jim

 

[MikeK]

I like Jim's suggestion of two new threads per day per person. It doesn't have to be a hard rule, just a guideline. If you posted two threads and later need a prayer request, go ahead and start another thread. Don't spam the main page with more than two article links per day though. Maybe one in OBOB, and 1 in the political subforum? Also, if you don't care to discuss an article, don't link to it. I've been guilty of creating too many link threads, never realizing what a bad neighbor I was being. I'll try to do better.

 

[TheOtherHockeyMom]

I like Jim's suggestion of two new threads per day per person. It doesn't have to be a hard rule, just a guideline. If you posted two threads and later need a prayer request, go ahead and start another thread. Don't spam the main page with more than two article links per day though. Maybe one in OBOB, and 1 in the political subforum? Also, if you don't care to discuss an article, don't link to it. I've been guilty of creating too many link threads, never realizing what a bad neighbor I was being. I'll try to do better.

I think that last bit would lead to much better discussion...only posting articles that you are interested in discussing (and preferably have an opinion on).

 

[AvilaSurfer]

Wow, I had no idea people thought this was such a problem until I read some of these posts. I'll say it again - nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read anything. I skip over a lot of posts. Do we really need a rule about how many articles should be posted? I mean, it's not like spam - there are no MLM ads, no slimy work from home tricks. Seriously there are more important things to get worked up about.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Wow, I had no idea people thought this was such a problem until I read some of these posts. I'll say it again - nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read anything. I skip over a lot of posts. Do we really need a rule about how many articles should be posted? I mean, it's not like spam - there are no MLM ads, no slimy work from home tricks. Seriously there are more important things to get worked up about.

So, you apparently don't mind coming into the forum and seeing threads by one person only, while others have been pushed off into obscurity.


Jim

 

[Sumwear]

So, you apparently don't mind coming into the forum and seeing threads by one person only, while others have been pushed off into obscurity.


Jim

page two is obscurity?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

page two is obscurity?

Sometimes page 3

The point is giving others respect, just as it's impolite to dominate conversations in social gatherings, not respecting what
others might have to say.

Jim

 

[MikeK]

Wow, I had no idea people thought this was such a problem until I read some of these posts. I'll say it again - nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read anything. I skip over a lot of posts. Do we really need a rule about how many articles should be posted? I mean, it's not like spam - there are no MLM ads, no slimy work from home tricks. Seriously there are more important things to get worked up about.

I don't think anyone is worked up.

 

[AvilaSurfer]

So, you apparently don't mind coming into the forum and seeing threads by one person only, while others have been pushed off into obscurity.


Jim

Not at all. If the other threads you talk about are interesting, I'm sure they wouldn't be in obscurity. Is that what this is all about? Are you feelings hurt?

 

[MikeK]

Actually, this discussion was prompted by a recent thread inquiring why things have been so slow. It was mentioned in that thread tht some people have left at least partially because they were tired of all the spam and prefered boards with a higher proportion if personal content.

 

[AvilaSurfer]

Eh - there are lots of message boards.

 

[MikeK]

Eh - there are lots of message boards.

There are lots of lots of things. When you're part of a community, you take care of it.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Not at all. If the other threads you talk about are interesting, I'm sure they wouldn't be in obscurity. Is that what this is all about? Are you feelings hurt?

How can anyone know if the other threads are interesting when they're pushed out of sight so quickly ?

Most people don't spend and entire morning or afternoon in this forum. I've watched threads posted in the morning, disappear before noon, and it was done by the posting of numerous threads by one person. So, a person who comes into the forum in the afternoon or evening, will have no idea about other threads, unless he goes searching, which if all he sees is that the majority of threads are by the same person, they'll just leave.

I know it's why I don't participate as often as I use to. That and because after giving up chatting for Lent, I see how forums like this are not always conducive in living a spiritual life.



Jim

 

[Sumwear]

How can anyone know if the other threads are interesting when they're pushed out of sight so quickly ?

Most people don't spend and entire morning or afternoon in this forum. I've watched threads posted in the morning, disappear before noon, and it was done by the posting of numerous threads by one person. So, a person who comes into the forum in the afternoon or evening, will have no idea about other threads, unless he goes searching, which if all he sees is that the majority of threads are by the same person, they'll just leave.

I know it's why I don't participate as often as I use to. That and because after giving up chatting for Lent, I see how forums like this are not always conducive in living a spiritual life.



Jim

I have revived some threads that were a few pages back just to leave my proverbial two cents. you have pointed out that you've been away from the forums. a possibility of why other users have left and are not participating in the discussions is because there have been a few users who have mocked or have been downright disrespectful towards other users. it's not my place to call out users because I don't know if it's genuinely mean spirited or a user trying to be funny.

 

[Tigg]

Apparently, very few know how to bump their own threads. And as was stated, no one has a gun to anyone's head. Ya read and respond if ya want. This forum needs a smiley playing a dirge on a violin.

 

[Lady Bug]

is everyone incapable of clicking their mouse to go to page 2?