So I saw a Urologist today...

[Jamdoc]

and well, there's nothing wrong with my prostate, but there's an issue with a nerve that connects to the testicles. When I've gone fully abstinent for about a week, and am "backed up" down there, it puts pressure on the nerve, which causes me pain.

It's not life threatening or cancer like maybe I feared if it had been an enlarged prostate issue but....

I don't know how to say this other than I have a medical need to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], more often than wet dreams can accommodate for, and don't have a wife.
I don't have any prospects for a wife, or anything.

Doctor of course says.. just.. touch, take off the pressure.

1 Corinthians 10:13 says I won't be tempted above what I can bear but is God just expecting me to bear through physical pain all the time?

 

[Jamdoc]

I mean am I supposed to mutilate myself to deal with it? Is Christ actually literal in some cases about cutting off parts of the body that cause you to sin? Cause I don't know how to deal with it when it's recurring pain and pressure, and the only way to alleviate it, most people consider sin.

 

[JohnC101]

Honestly, I don't really know how to answer that question. I'd like to think that you could, because of the medical issue, but I'm not entirely sure.

Concerning your condition, you may want to get a second opinion from another doctor, I don't think I've ever heard of that medical problem, and there are other things it could be.

 

[Jamdoc]

Honestly, I don't really know how to answer that question. I'd like to think that you could, because of the medical issue, but I'm not entirely sure.

Concerning your condition, you may want to get a second opinion from another doctor, I don't think I've ever heard of that medical problem, and there are other things it could be.

the urologist said they had another patient, with a similar issue, where it gets painful if they don't [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] after awhile, but they were married, just their wife didn't want to have sex as often as he needed, and because of his faith he also didn't want to touch to alleviate the pain.

I find that dreadful, they have a need but it's not being provided for, even by their wife.

This guy's concern was "wasting seed" thinking Genesis 38:9-10 was about masturbation, which is common but it wasn't about that it was about not wanting his brother's wife to conceive a child that wouldn't legally be his, basically not fulfilling his duty to keep inheritance in the family, which would become part of Levitical Law.

Now that's not my concern, honestly I don't see anything in the bible forbidding touching yourself, but so many other Christians see it as sin that I want to abstain from "appearance of evil"

but anyway, being disabled and relying on the VA for healthcare, I don't know if I have a means for second opinion, but the doctor's explanation made sense.. just the Epididymis putting pressure on a nerve when it gets full, because this pain and pressure spreads from the front of the right side of the scrotum, and travels up the right side of my groin.

It becomes really uncomfortable to sit down, or lay down, and I can't stand for very long.

I just wonder if masturbation (without porn or lustful fantasies mind you) is not an escape, then what is? Prayer has not alleviated the pain or provided a legal means of relief.

 

[.Mikha'el.]

I take no issue with masturbating when there is no other means of release as long as it is done responsibly. My concern is in being prudent about it as opposed to the debate about doing it or not. What I'm about to post is my approach to it that I've mentioned here before.

1) Don't make excuses to touch. Don't do it out of boredom, loneliness, or even just because it feels good.
2) Don't watch porn or view other illicit images. It will blur the line between masturbating out of real need or because of artificial arousal.
3) Once you are sure you really need to do it, feel free to touch. You'll feel much more comfortable and your head will be clearer.
4) Take a shower as soon as is reasonable as per Leviticus 15. You'll feel much cleaner and healthier.

 

[JohnC101]

the urologist said they had another patient, with a similar issue, where it gets painful if they don't [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] after awhile, but they were married, just their wife didn't want to have sex as often as he needed, and because of his faith he also didn't want to touch to alleviate the pain.

I find that dreadful, they have a need but it's not being provided for, even by their wife.

This guy's concern was "wasting seed" thinking Genesis 38:9-10 was about masturbation, which is common but it wasn't about that it was about not wanting his brother's wife to conceive a child that wouldn't legally be his, basically not fulfilling his duty to keep inheritance in the family, which would become part of Levitical Law.

Now that's not my concern, honestly I don't see anything in the bible forbidding touching yourself, but so many other Christians see it as sin that I want to abstain from "appearance of evil"

but anyway, being disabled and relying on the VA for healthcare, I don't know if I have a means for second opinion, but the doctor's explanation made sense.. just the Epididymis putting pressure on a nerve when it gets full, because this pain and pressure spreads from the front of the right side of the scrotum, and travels up the right side of my groin.

It becomes really uncomfortable to sit down, or lay down, and I can't stand for very long.

I just wonder if masturbation (without porn or lustful fantasies mind you) is not an escape, then what is? Prayer has not alleviated the pain or provided a legal means of relief.

Understood, I'm pretty sure that the VA does authorize second opinions, but you need to contact them directly at an office or by phone.

Mikha'el before me gave what I think is the best advice concerning masturbation, do so as is necessary.

May God bless you on your endeavors.