So, can we be free from hate?

[KCKID]

God loves the sinner but not the sin. Those who commit homosexual acts, be it Christian or not, will not inherit the Kingdom of God. You can find that in the Bible at Gal 5:19-21.
The Christian can repent of his/her sin and by their choice turn from homosexual sex.

What, precisely, is 'homosexual sex'? Do you mean sodomy? Most of the anti-'gays' on the forum are SO vague on this issue. To put it simply, if we allow for the fact that God condemns sodomy - and even then only because this doesn't produce off-spring and was/would be therefore a cultural taboo - what OTHER 'intimate behavior' between two consenting homosexuals is offensive to God as per the scriptures? What of the 'gays' who have an intimate relationship with another but don't participate in sodomy? What are THEY to repent of?

I've asked this question several times before and so far have not received a satisfactory response/answer.

 

[IamRedeemed]

"Homosexual sex" is term that describes sex or sexual/romantic affections shared between members
of the same sex. It has nothing to do with "cultural taboo" it has to do with defying God in
rebellion by utilizing our bodies in a way that God has condemned as a perversion of His
created purposes and the gift He has given to be shared between a husband (man)
and his wife (woman).

What, precisely, is 'homosexual sex'? Do you mean sodomy? Most of the anti-'gays' on the forum are SO vague on this issue. To put it simply, if we allow for the fact that God condemns sodomy - and even then only because this doesn't produce off-spring and was/would be therefore a cultural taboo - what OTHER 'intimate behavior' between two consenting homosexuals is offensive to God as per the scriptures? What of the 'gays' who have an intimate relationship with another but don't participate in sodomy? What are THEY to repent of?

I've asked this question several times before and so far have not received a satisfactory response/answer.

 

[KCKID]

"Homosexual sex" is term that describes sex or sexual/romantic affections shared between members
of the same sex. It has nothing to do with "cultural taboo" it has to do with defying God in
rebellion by utilizing our bodies in a way that God has condemned as a perversion of His
created purposes and the gift He has given to be shared between a husband (man)
and his wife (woman).

Wrong! Sodomy is what the Bible says is displeasing to God. The rest of your post is non-scriptural rhetoric. I guess (mutual) masturbation between adults (heterosexual as well as homosexual?) is also on your list of 'sins'? I mean, that act doesn't produce off-spring either.

It was all about 'making babies', IAmRedeemed, and anything else was deemed to be culturally taboo. Females were basically 'baby-making' machines and their role was to produce male heirs. This whole topic is predominantly culture-based for that time and not explicitly divine-based. God appears to have wholeheartedly approved of this cultural situation of male superiority and female submission.

I sometimes wish we WERE living in the good ol' days. Women today talk too much and they think too much. It's a problem.

 

[texastig]

Wrong! Sodomy is what the Bible says is displeasing to God.

Don't forget about fornication and the rest of the works of the flesh in Gal 5:19-21

The rest of your post is non-scriptural rhetoric.

The rest of her post isn't rhetoric. God put man and woman together not man and man. There are many verses for man and woman but you won't find any for man and man and woman and woman.

I guess (mutual) masturbation between adults (heterosexual as well as homosexual?) is also on your list of 'sins'? I mean, that act doesn't produce off-spring either.

We are not supposed to have sex with ourselves.

It was all about 'making babies', IAmRedeemed, and anything else was deemed to be culturally taboo. Females were basically 'baby-making' machines and their role was to produce male heirs. This whole topic is predominantly culture-based for that time and not explicitly divine-based. God appears to have wholeheartedly approved of this cultural situation of male superiority and female submission.

God made man and put him in charge. Women were made to help the guys.

 

[Hentenza]

Wrong! Sodomy is what the Bible says is displeasing to God. The rest of your post is non-scriptural rhetoric. I guess (mutual) masturbation between adults (heterosexual as well as homosexual?) is also on your list of 'sins'? I mean, that act doesn't produce off-spring either.

It was all about 'making babies', IAmRedeemed, and anything else was deemed to be culturally taboo. Females were basically 'baby-making' machines and their role was to produce male heirs. This whole topic is predominantly culture-based for that time and not explicitly divine-based. God appears to have wholeheartedly approved of this cultural situation of male superiority and female submission.

I sometimes wish we WERE living in the good ol' days. Women today talk too much and they think too much. It's a problem.

Can you quote a single verse in the bible that supports homosexuality?

The best proof you have that God did not support homosexuality is that the parts just don't fit or aren't even design to fit. Do you think God was wrong about that? Do you think that humans can make parts fit together that God did not intent to be used in that manner? :o

 

[Texas Lynn]

The best proof you have that God did not support homosexuality is that the parts just don't fit or aren't even design to fit. Do you think God was wrong about that? Do you think that humans can make parts fit together that God did not intent to be used in that manner? :o

Even if limited to discussion of heterosexual sex only the variances of possible sex acts and positions make the comment about 'the parts just don't fit' pretty ridiculous.

 

[Hentenza]

Even if limited to discussion of heterosexual sex only the variances of possible sex acts and positions make the comment about 'the parts just don't fit' pretty ridiculous.

Not really.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Not really.

It certainly shows the squeamish possess a willful ignorance of the varieties of human sexual experience.

 

[Hentenza]

It certainly shows the squeamish possess a willful ignorance of the varieties of human sexual experience.

The squeamish? LOL!!!!! You know what making assumptions lead to, don't you?

 

[Texas Lynn]

The squeamish? LOL!!!!! You know what making assumptions lead to, don't you?

Never stopped you. Friend, it was no "assumption"---it was an impartial and accurate analysis of the evidence.

 

[Hentenza]

Never stopped you. Friend, it was no "assumption"---it was an impartial and accurate analysis of the evidence.

"Impartial and accurate"??? Prove it.

 

[Texas Lynn]

"Impartial and accurate"??? Prove it.

One dictionary defines "squeamish" as "dainty: excessively fastidious and easily disgusted; 'too nice about his food to take to camp cooking'"....

More often these days the term is utilized to describe the Mrs. Grundys, Comstocks, and Pecksniffs of the world and their disgust at the sexuality of ordinary men and women.

Kurt Vonnegut Jr. sure had their number when in his short story "Welcome to the Monkey House" a character described the repressive laws advocated by these know-it-all better-than-you squeamish characters: "They're bad laws. What we must remember is these people have forgiven themselves and their friends for anything and everything but they have always been absolutely disgusted by the sexuality of ordinary men and women."

 

[Hentenza]

One dictionary defines "squeamish" as "dainty: excessively fastidious and easily disgusted; 'too nice about his food to take to camp cooking'"....

More often these days the term is utilized to describe the Mrs. Grundys, Comstocks, and Pecksniffs of the world and their disgust at the sexuality of ordinary men and women.

Kurt Vonnegut Jr. sure had their number when in his short story "Welcome to the Monkey House" a character described the repressive laws advocated by these know-it-all better-than-you squeamish characters: "They're bad laws. What we must remember is these people have forgiven themselves and their friends for anything and everything but they have always been absolutely disgusted by the sexuality of ordinary men and women."

LOL!!! Your use of terms to demean people is getting more and more "original". Are you seriously calling me "squeamish"?

 

[Texas Lynn]

LOL!!! Your use of terms to demean people is getting more and more "original". Are you seriously calling me "squeamish"?

I'm not sure; I don't recall if it was you expressing ignorance of the various sex acts in which ordinary people engage. It was someone and that person expressed a squeamishness.

Keep in mind a general squeamishness seems to arise when frank discussion of sexuality ensues. While it is generally the extreme conservative faction which brings up actual sex acts, when that occurs and people further discuss sexuality the right tends to express objection, sometimes by bringing up in a maudlin fashion how children read this stuff.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

I'm squeamish towards sexual stuff, I'll admit.