Dear KCKID,
The account of Sodom says what it says, why do people persist in trying to claim it doesn't implicate homosexuality? It does. The latest dispute on the other thread again claims it is gang rape, yet the text doesnt say gang rape, its says 'yada' to know in this case carnally. Lot offers his daughters without saying thats wicked, so even if one likes to think of this specifically as gang rape the question is why is male-female gang an accpetable alternative to wicked same-sex gang rape.
You are teaching falsehoods here, Phinehas. All the men of the city, young and old, came to HARM (not to appease their sexual appetite) Lot's guests. Whether it would be perceived as gang rape or not it certainly had NOTHING to do with the homosexuality issues that we are dealing with on this forum. Any you know it! Shame on you for perpetuating the homosexual myth in regard to Sodom and Gomorrah.
Now many including myself have been through all the feeble objections to the scriptures which exclude same sex-sex unions such as Genesis 2, Matt 19, Mark 10, Ephesians 5, 1 Corinthians 7, Hebrews 13, and all the feeble objections to the indirect and direct condemnations such as Genesis 19, Judges 19, Leviticus 18 & 20, 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Timothy 1, Romans 1, 2 Peter 2 and Jude 1 and as many Christians now know, it represents much more than a difference of opinion but a major rebellion against the truth of the word of God. Only once when gay and lesbian theologians have disputed all these passages do they try and claim the Bible says nothing about homosexuality, so they havnt got a leg to stand on anyway. Such rank disbelief is not sustainable in the Christian church.
You're trying to hoodwink the gullible with your 'all these passages' that is supposedly pertaining to homosexuality, Phinehas. It's a lie. Again you know it. As for the Christian church, it basically lost the plot ages ago and few Christians seem to have a clue what TRUE Christianity is all about. Much of it amounts to the blind leading the blind. Paul has become the 'Jesus' of mainstream Christianity and his words over-ride those of Jesus. Jesus says NOTHING about homosexuality. NOR do other scriptures that refer to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Now this was the sin of Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
Ezekiel 16:49-50
This idea is paralleled in the Gospels when Jesus compares an inhospitable reception to Sodom:
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
Matthew: 10:14-15
How come homosexuality or 'sex with men' is not mentioned here, Phinehas? These texts are referring to the sin's of Sodom and Gomorrah.

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