Sleeping Through Nuclear War

[Newtheran]

I struggled with prepping for many years before ultimately deciding to just move out of the US. I found a couple of key problems with prepping:

1. What if you are not in your shelter when nuclear war hits in the middle of the night?
2. What happens when the food runs out?

I plan for a nuclear war scenario. Take a look at a couple of articles below:

[June 7, 2019] The US just quietly challenged China on something Beijing promised to go to war over | Business Insider => The challenge was about Taiwan.
[April 15, 2019] US-Russia relations are getting worse, and that's raising concerns about stumbling into a nuclear war | Business Insider
[July 21, 2018] Moscow Is Ready for a Nuclear War (As in Lots of Bunkers for the Population) | National Interest

Russia has bunkers for at least 40 million people. Does MAD still apply if over 25% of the Russian population survives?

Not saying that nuclear war is going to happen this year, but the risk of nuclear war is increasing.

If the US got nuked in the middle of the night while you were sleeping, how would you know?

Let's say you survive the nuclear war. However, a year or two later your food runs out. Then what? Can you farm?

My biggest concerns regarding nuclear war have nothing to do with Russia or China. While we have serious disagreements, neither of them are suicidal...nor are we. Which is why we got through decades of the cold war without blowing up the planet.

None of these assumptions apply to people who believe that death in jihad nets them 72 virgins and a free trip to heaven.

 

[Bladerunner]

It's rare to find a person who is willing to lift a finger to save himself from nuclear war. Almost everyone would rather do nothing. Sadly, this is what I have found.

We can survive nuclear war if we prepare. I'm suggesting that people move preparation for nuclear war up the list.

Hi Matt5..It is evident that you think this life is the best you are going to have.... If you keep that up, this worldview will become a fact.

If you repent and believe in Jesus Christ and His Gospel (1 Cor 15:1-4), you will find this life is simply a prelude to an eternal life in Heaven.

That is why you are here....is it not.

Blade

 

[Bladerunner]

I have noticed that pre-trib people are really pre-nuke. No nukes will be falling before they are raptured out of here. Isn't that cheating?

Why would it be cheating....

Blade

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Question: I noticed you have quite a few stars. Why does someone give a person a star? Does that just mean they strongly agree?

Got so many becuause I have been here for 17 going on 18 years. Over 22,000 posts. (a system crash at CF caused a lot of us to lose posts and blessings...)

 

[SavedByGrace3]

The biggest nuclear threat right now is from North Korea.

You may be correct Luke631.
I think the most dangerous is the nation with a kook leader who thinks he has a divine destiny and that God has told him to shoot his one nuc at NY, DC, or LA. He does not have the sense to realize his nation will become a pile of radioactive rubble. Of course as bad as a major US city burning to the ground might be... the uncertainty of what Russia or China might do is then the greater danger. In the chaos they may decide to take advantage and conduct a mass attack.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Why would it be cheating....

Blade

Besides... nucs have already fallen. My dad confirmed this to us as he was in a US Army engineering crew that built a runway south of Nagasaki after the surrender.

 

[Bladerunner]

Besides... nucs have already fallen. My dad confirmed this to us as he was in a US Army engineering crew that built a runway south of Nagasaki after the surrender.

Yes, my father helped take back those Islands leading up to those days at Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

But why would it be cheating

Blade

 

[Matt5]

Why would it be cheating....

Blade

Aren't pre-tribbers falsely concluding that countries can't get nuked well before the tribulation even starts? Being right on rapture timing doesn't preclude major calamity before the rapture. Yet, pre-tribbers seem like they assume that.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

If you know where the nukes may drop, run towards them.

I wouldn't want to be a survivor in the aftermath of an all-out nuclear attack.

This.

Living close to a major airport and, thus, ground zero, is quite restful.

 

[Bladerunner]

Aren't pre-tribbers falsely concluding that countries can't get nuked well before the tribulation even starts? Being right on rapture timing doesn't preclude major calamity before the rapture. Yet, pre-tribbers seem like they assume that.

I think you have heard wrongly. The Rapture of the Church does not necessarily start the Daniel's 70th week. My thinking is that God's wrath will begin as stated in Rev 6:1. Nuclear War is more likely after the Rapture as the USA will almost immediately become a third world country. Europe will not be as affected and neither will Russia or China. The U.S. Military will almost cease to exist as most of the people in the Military believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and His Gospel. (! Cor 15:1-4)

Hope you have a good evening.

Blade

 

[A Gerbil]

Don't worry - just Duck and Cover!

 

[Walter and Deborah]

Don't worry - just Duck and Cover!

Amen

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I am old enough to remember the duck and cover drills when I was in elementary school.
I was also in the USAF and a member of a Combat Targeting Team. We added the launch codes, the target codes, and the enable codes to the on-board computers of the Minute Man III missiles. We did not fire the missiles carrying the 3 Mark-10 nuclear bombs, but we aimed the missiles and gave the loaded weapon to the officers in the Control Center.
Ducking and covering will not help you. In most cases bunkers will be useless.
As for me... I am not going to look my children and grandchildren in the eye and tell them that these things will help them. They will die horrible deaths either by horrific burns, radiation sickness, or slow starvation.
It is not a joke.

 

[A Gerbil]

I am old enough to remember the duck and cover drills when I was in elementary school.
I was also in the USAF and a member of a Combat Targeting Team. We added the launch codes, the target codes, and the enable codes to the on-board computers of the Minute Man III missiles. We did not fire the missiles carrying the 3 Mark-10 nuclear bombs, but we aimed the missiles and gave the loaded weapon to the officers in the Control Center.
Ducking and covering will not help you. In most cases bunkers will be useless.
As for me... I am not going to look my children and grandchildren in the eye and tell them that these things will help them. They will die horrible deaths either by horrific burns, radiation sickness, or slow starvation.
It is not a joke.

There's a good documentary called The Man Who Saved The World, I think, about a Soviet officer who averted a nuclear war in the early 1980s. I believe the film claimed that one Minute Man missile contains the equivalent explosive power as all of the bombs dropped in the Second World War combined - which presumably includes Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Now multiply that by 10,000 - assuming it was Russia vs the USA.

Then consider the legendary Dead Hand system - if what I have read or heard is true, you could emerge from your nuclear bunker after two years, and start rebuilding society, and then be hit with another strike.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

There's a good documentary called The Man Who Saved The World, I think, about a Soviet officer who averted a nuclear war in the early 1980s. I believe the film claimed that one Minute Man missile contains the equivalent explosive power as all of the bombs dropped in the Second World War combined - which presumably includes Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Now multiply that by 10,000 - assuming it was Russia vs the USA.

Then consider the legendary Dead Hand system - if what I have read or heard is true, you could emerge from your nuclear bunker after two years, and start rebuilding society, and then be hit with another strike.

You may be correct Gerbil.
A full fledged nuclear war is unwinnable. Nobody will survive. In recent years a philosophy has been introduced that you can win a nuclear war. Madness. Yet I am convinced they will try, and only the return of Jesus will literally "save the world" from total extinction.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

1. What if you are not in your shelter when nuclear war hits in the middle of the night?

And what if you are in the shelter ? < shrugs > Might survive a little. Might be nothing left ? (in the area) ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

It's rare to find a person who is willing to lift a finger to save himself from nuclear war. Almost everyone would rather do nothing. Sadly, this is what I have found.

We can survive nuclear war if we prepare. I'm suggesting that people move preparation for nuclear war up the list.

OR,

Trust the Heavenly Father and Rely on Him - Talk with Him and whatever He Says to DO, DO. (this is all the time, though, without even thinking of war, etc )

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

If you are believe in Jesus and His Gospel (1 Cor 15:1-4), then you will not go through them. You will not be on earth.

Blade

There once were over a million in China who believed this.

Then they were slaughtered..... and many denied their faith in order to save their pitiful physical life and to be spared from pain and suffering.

The pastors repented with many tears in grief and sorrow for not having told them the truth the previous decade - about suffering and persecution ....

Have the pastors in the USA repented of this yet ? (I don't think so, but don't know)

 

[A Gerbil]

You may be correct Gerbil.
A full fledged nuclear war is unwinnable. Nobody will survive. In recent years a philosophy has been introduced that you can win a nuclear war. Madness. Yet I am convinced they will try, and only the return of Jesus will literally "save the world" from total extinction.

Oh, I'm utterly convinced there nuclear weapons will be used - Matthew 24:22. It's all there in the Bible. I'm sure there's scripture which states that the 'stars will come down from heaven' and to me that always sounded like the sort of thing a prophet in ancient times would write to describe his visions. I'm sure it also describes a nuclear winter, with the sun and moon not visible through the thick cloud that would be created.