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Daniel C

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Right.
 
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the laws and governments we have are ORDAINED of God. See Romans 13.


We could go more in depth with this but that would be off topic. Yeah Christians of course should be law abiding subjects or leave the country.

God simply does not bless all laws or else sodomite marriage and abortion would be Holy.

Perhaps another time.
 
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There is nothing in the bible that says self-defense or coming to the defense of another is wrong. your comment about sodomite marriage and abortion is off topic.
 
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In the flesh..... I'd say your dad is lucky you held back and only slapped him and nothing more.... IMO you did absolutely no wrong in protecting your mother.

That said, not to contradict my support as previously stated. I say you take your conscience to God, the TRUE Father and ask Him if the guilt/shame you feel is from Him, or is it from the accuser.

IF it is the "good guilt" that when all is said and done, has drawn you closer to God, then you embrace that guilt and you learn from it and draw closer to Him knowing you are forgiven. Like the guilt Peter felt after denying Christ for the third time.

If it is the useless guilt that tries to pull you away from the Father...like the guilt/remorse that Judas felt.... then take the issue to God, ask Him to forgive you of what is on your consciene, thenignore the guilt and move on knowing that feeling is the devil trying to draw you away.... and what he says doesnt matter, he is defeated and you are forgiven.

Ultimately, look to God to justify you, not to men.... let every man be a liar and for God to be true.

As I said, personally as I see it you have no reason to feel guilty, but I do not know exactly how or what God is currently working out in you and because I do not know how He plans to mold and shape you.... I can only advise you seek answers from Him as most of us, in our fleshly understanding will say "he had it coming".
 
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Hello Lily of the Valley, has your father ever been ~physically~ abusive to you or your mom in the past, or was this the 1st time for that (not that verbal and/or mental/emotional abuse, or throwing or breaking property items, or punching holes in the wall, etc., isn't horrible too).

Thanks!

BTW, there is no reason for you to feel bad about protecting your mother!

God bless you!

--David
 
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The UK has great resources for looking after women fleeing abuse.
 
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Attempting to protect the physical wellbeing of your mother is honoring her. As for your old man, I would explain to him why it happened and that you believe his physical abuse is sin and encourage him to repent.
 
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I've heard this type of reasoning before when people discuss defending self or others. I've never seen a valid Christian principle being upheld by standing by and allowing someone to attack you or someone else. The often-quoted statement by Jesus to turn the other cheek when someone slaps you is one that is applied wrongly when it's a situation where you're not being slapped on the cheek, but rather threatened with a knife or being shot at with a gun, or beaten with a baseball bat. Nothing at all unChristian about protecting someone who is being assaulted. If we're to help the poor and those who are in need, then why would it be wrong to help those who are being assaulted/beaten/killed?
 
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The mother didn't get assaulted though.

You are the second person that mentioned turn the other cheek after the lawyer and that is not the point I was making.

And I don't think your comparisons where you use the weapons and the poor are good at illustrating the desired point.
 
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Then at what point should Lily have waited to intervene, if at all? If she sincerely believed that her mother was about to take a fist to the face, when (if at all) should she have intervened, and how?
 
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Id say the police should be called out. No one should have to go through that. Sometimes love is kicking a person out until they get the help they need. Not you. Your father.
 
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Your dad knows, deep in his heart, he is wrong. If you get the chance to talk, when it is not escalated, you can tell him you are sorry for the slap, and you felt, and feel, terrible about it, but that he needs help, to treat your mom right.
Hang in there; sounds like you are doing what's right, and your heart is right. Pray for him, and bind up the spirits that have a stranglehold on him right now, in Jesus' Holy Name.
 
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This is confusing...... along with all the replies.

Had your father ever hit your mother before.?.... which would give you good reason to believe he was going to do it again in this occasion? Of not, it was more likely your disdain for your father, that led you to hit him and not any belief of eminent danger to your mother. This, you will have to give an account for.

If your father has abused, physically, your mother in the past, I believe you reacted in a way that many would.
 
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