Slander and murder, do you still support Israel's actions?

[Oompa Loompa]

No, Obama droned to death all kinds of innocents. Remember the whole wedding parties our country slaughtered back in the good old days? Wrong is wrong, wherever it happens and no matter who does it.

Yeah, right, "Obama" did this all by his lonesome. If all the Gazan people, including the babes in arms, are responsible for whatever Hamas does, so are we equally responsible for whatever our elected government did/does. How can it be otherwise?

but what has this got to do with either the actual topic of this thread or my post?

Perhaps I mistakenly thought you were sarcastic in your response to @public hermit. Were you agreeing with him that the people of Gaza have some responsibility for Istael's response?

 

[rambot]

I don't believe anything china says.

What about Ireland? Are rhey as dastardly as China?

In fact most of the global south condemn it.

Funny the nation that is funding and supplying the genocide finds so many of its citizens supporting rhe killing of gazans.


I don't think that's a coincidence

 

[BeyondET]

What about Ireland? Are rhey as dastardly as China?

In fact most of the global south condemn it.

Funny the nation that is funding and supplying the genocide finds so many of its citizens supporting rhe killing of gazans.


I don't think that's a coincidence

There's nothing funny about any of it.

 

[public hermit]

Were you agreeing with him that the people of Gaza have some responsibility for Istael's response?

To be clear, having some responsibility** for electing Hamas doesn't justify Israel's wholesale slaughter of the people of Gaza. Even the initial massacre doesn't justify what has taken place since. Israel is clearly targeting civilians and verging on genocide. The criteria of necessity, proportionality, and distinction mean nothing to Israel's current leadership.

**For info on the 2006 election of Hamas:
2006 Palestinian legislative election - Wikipedia

 

[Oompa Loompa]

To be clear, having some responsibility** for electing Hamas doesn't justify Israel's wholesale slaughter of the people of Gaza. Even the initial massacre doesn't justify what has taken place since. Israel is clearly targeting civilians and verging on genocide. The criteria of necessity, proportionality, and distinction mean nothing to Israel's current leadership.

**For info on the 2006 election of Hamas:
2006 Palestinian legislative election - Wikipedia

Makes me wonder why Hamas still refuses to give up the hostages considering all would have been avoided if they had.

 

[public hermit]

Makes me wonder why Hamas still refuses to give up the hostages considering all would have been avoided if they had.

I don't know. Israeli leadership does not think much of their own people. At least, they seem perfectly willing to sacrifice the hostages to wipe Palestinians off the map.

 

[Bob Crowley]

Do you also support Israel slandering all its critics?

The Australian Government supported a UN sponsored ceasefire.

For doing that the Israeli Ambassador criticised the Australian Government.

‘Shockingly amateurish’: Australian government delivers veiled rebuke to Israel over UN agency comments

Exclusive: Canberra insider hits back at Amir Maimon who accused Australia of forgetting ‘Hamas culpability’ for 7 October attacks

www.theguardian.com

If you so much as differ from the official Israeli line, you're likely to be slandered.

Israel was established in 1948 because the West had a guilty conscience about the way Europeans had treated the Jews.

Way back after World War I TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) pleaded with western colonial powers and the big oil companies to give the Arabs independence and a share in the oil proceeds. But no, the Arabs were going to get nothing!

To rub salt into the wound, the West enforced Zionist sovereignty on Palestine, which was Arab by that time and had been for centuries.

The problems in the Middle East didn't start in 1948.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I don't know. Israeli leadership does not think much of their own people. At least, they seem perfectly willing to sacrifice the hostages to wipe Palestinians off the map.

Yes, just let Hamas call the shots and prove that taking hostages works...Israel DOES care about its own people that is why they need to destroy Hamas...permanently. We do not negotiate with terrorists so why should Israel?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Makes me wonder why Hamas still refuses to give up the hostages considering all would have been avoided if they had.

Because Hamas has a clear agenda...the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jewish people. They do not care about anyone or anything else other than their evil agenda. That is why they steal funds and food from their own people and let them starve.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The Australian Government supported a UN sponsored ceasefire.

For doing that the Israeli Ambassador criticised the Australian Government.

‘Shockingly amateurish’: Australian government delivers veiled rebuke to Israel over UN agency comments

Exclusive: Canberra insider hits back at Amir Maimon who accused Australia of forgetting ‘Hamas culpability’ for 7 October attacks

www.theguardian.com

If you so much as differ from the official Israeli line, you're likely to be slandered.

Israel was established in 1948 because the West had a guilty conscience about the way Europeans had treated the Jews.

Way back after World War I TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) pleaded with western colonial powers and the big oil companies to give the Arabs independence and a share in the oil proceeds. But no, the Arabs were going to get nothing!

To rub salt into the wound, the West enforced Zionist sovereignty on Palestine, which was Arab by that time and had been for centuries.

The problems in the Middle East didn't start in 1948.

Lawrence died in 1935. Oil was discovered in Saudi Arabia 3 years later in 1938. Why would Lawrence negotiate with the big oil companies? Revisionist history perhaps?

 

[Pommer]

Lawrence died in 1935. Oil was discovered in Saudi Arabia 3 years later in 1938. Why would Lawrence negotiate with the big oil companies? Revisionist history perhaps?

Obama’s time-machine striketh again!

 

[DaisyDay]

Perhaps I mistakenly thought you were sarcastic in your response to @public hermit. Were you agreeing with him that the people of Gaza have some responsibility for Istael's response?

Not sarcastic, ironic. Do I think the babes in arms bear responsibility and therefore are getting what's coming to them?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Not sarcastic, ironic. Do I think the babes in arms bear responsibility and therefore are getting what's coming to them?

I think the same civilians who elected Hamas and were cheering as women were being murdered and kidnapped hold some responsibility. They are experiencing one of those 'mess around and find out' situations. These are the same people who see it as their patriotic duty to their ideology by harboring terrorists and using their children to protect terrorist. Of course the children are innocent, so the real tragedy is not from Israel, but from the Gazan people who hate Jews more than they love their children.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I think the same civilians who elected Hamas and were cheering as women were being murdered and kidnapped hold some responsibility. They are experiencing one of those 'mess around and find out' situations. These are the same people who see it as their patriotic duty to their ideology by harboring terrorists and using their children to protect terrorist. Of course the children are innocent, so the real tragedy is not from Israel, but from the Gazan people who hate Jews more than they love their children.

They are not cheering now! In fact they hate Hamas and blame them for what is happening now...

 

[DaisyDay]

I think the same civilians who elected Hamas and were cheering as women were being murdered and kidnapped hold some responsibility.

Babes in arms neither elected Hamas nor cheered. How precocious do you think the Gazan children are? The last election was 15 years ago.

They are experiencing one of those 'mess around and find out' situations.

Dumb babies should know better than to mess around!!

These are the same people who see it as their patriotic duty to their ideology by harboring terrorists and using their children to protect terrorist.

They ought to be starved and bombed to death for this!!

Of course the children are innocent,

That's what I've been saying and what you've been disputing.

so the real tragedy is not from Israel, but from the Gazan people who hate Jews more than they love their children.

Do you really believe this? SMH

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Babes in arms neither elected Hamas nor cheered.

No disagreement here.

How precocious do you think the Gazan children are? The last election was 15 years ago.

None what so ever. Why do you ask?

Dumb babies should know better than to mess around!!

Emotional outburst that is void of anything substantive that I stated.

They ought to be starved and bombed to death for this!

Another unwarranted emotional outburst that has nothing to do with what I stated. It is almost like you are desperately trying to find a reason to be offended.

That's what I've been saying and what you've been disputing.

That is what I am saying and I am not disputing this fact. If you would actually put your hyper-emotionalism aside and respond to what I actually stated.

Do you really believe this? SMH

Yes, Absolutely! The Hamas government, and the Gazan citizens who have been brainwashed by their ideology will gladly martyr their own children to protect terrorists, or use their deaths as anti-semetic propaganda. That is a fact.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

They are not cheering now! In fact they hate Hamas and blame them for what is happening now...

They should also accept responsibility for supporting the people who put themselves in their situation. Who is responsible? Click on the spoiler button to find out.

Spoiler

NOT ISRAEL!

 

[RileyG]

I think the same civilians who elected Hamas and were cheering as women were being murdered and kidnapped hold some responsibility. They are experiencing one of those 'mess around and find out' situations. These are the same people who see it as their patriotic duty to their ideology by harboring terrorists and using their children to protect terrorist. Of course the children are innocent, so the real tragedy is not from Israel, but from the Gazan people who hate Jews more than they love their children.

QFTW

 

[Hazelelponi]

Israel's wholesale slaughter of the people of Gaza.

If there was "wholesale slaughter" going on I find it doubtful the population growth rate would be among the highest in the world.

It rather indicates Israel tries very hard not to injure any of the civilian population, since the growth rate exceeds other Muslim majority countries who aren't at war like Saudi Arabia.

 

[Palmfever]

Israel, at UN, warns Houthis risk same fate as other Iran proxies | The Jerusalem Post

The US reiterated that it condemned the Houthis’ latest attacks on Israel and supports Israel’s right to self-defense at the UNSC meeting.

m.jpost.com

Israel warns Houthis of consequences for missile attacks at UN Security Council meeting​

If the idiots in Yemen don't stop attacking Israel they will recieve the same.
The solution for peace in Palistine is simple. Stop bombing us. Return our citizens. Leave us alone.

Houthis' latest attacks on Israel​

The US reiterated that it condemned the Houthis’ latest attacks on Israel and supports Israel’s right to self-defense, a statement also supported by the United Kingdom.
While the UK said, “Iran bears responsibility for the actions of its proxies,” it also said Israeli action must be consistent with international humanitarian law.
UN Ambassador Danny Danon on Monday issued what he called a final warning to Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis to halt their missile attacks on Israel, saying they risked the same “miserable fate” as fellow Iranian allies Hamas, Hezbollah, and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad if they persisted.

He also warned Tehran that Israel has the ability to strike any target in the Middle East, including in Iran, adding that Israel would not tolerate attacks by Iranian proxies.

The Houthis, an Iranian-backed rebel group that is dedicated to the destruction of Israel and Jews, have launched more than 200 missiles and 170 drones at Israel in the past year, according to the IDF, including a wave of middle-of-the-night missile attacks over the last two weeks.

The group says it is attacking Israel in solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza, during the ongoing multifront war that began when the Hamas terror group attacked Israel from that enclave on October 7, 2023, killing some 1,200 people and taking 251 hostages.

“To the Houthis, perhaps you have not been paying attention to what has happened to the Middle East over the past year. Well, allow me to remind you what has happened to Hamas, to Hezbollah, to Assad, to all those who have attempted to destroy us. Let this be your final warning,” Danon told the UN Security Council.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-un-israel-warns-houthis-could-share-fate-as-hamas-hezbollah-and-assad/