Sins of the prophet Muhammad

[ammuslim]

Bismillah:

With him are the keys of the unseen, the treasures that none knoweth but he. he knoweth whatever there is on the earth and in the sea. not a leaf doth fall but with his knowledge: there is not a grain in the darkness (or depths) of the earth, nor anything fresh or dry (green or withered), but is (inscribed) in a record clear (Qur'an6:59)

 

[Green Man]

OK,



Allah is ?The All Knowing.?

Allah is "The All Knowing."does not answer the question.Yes or no?

 

[Bookofknowledge]

Allah is "The All Knowing."does not answer the question.Yes or no?

If two men stand on the opposite side of this universe and both of them ask Allah is with me or the other guy then those who have faith knows that Allah is One and Only, He knows All, Ever Watchful and closer than jugular vein.



50:16
We created man, We know the prompting of his soul, and We are closer to him than his jugular vein.

50:17
Besides this direct knowledge ,We have assigned to every one two scribes (guardian angels), the one seated on his right and the other on his left,

50:18
not a single word does he utter but there is a vigilant guardian ready to note it down.

50:19
When the agony of death will bring the truth before his eyes, they will say: "This is what you were trying to escape!"

50:20
And the Trumpet shall be blown; that will be the Day of which you were threatened!

50:21
Each soul will come forth; with it there will be a an angel to drive and an angel to bear witness.

50:22
It will be said: "You were heedless of this, but now We have removed your veil, so your eyesight is sharp today!"

50:23
His companion will say: "Here is my testimony ready with me."

50:24
The sentence will be: "Throw into hell every stubborn disbeliever,

50:25
every opponent of good, and every doubting transgressor

50:26
who set up other gods besides Allah. Throw him into severe punishment."

50:27
His companion will say: "Our Rabb! I did not mislead him. He himself had gone far astray."

50:28
Allah will say: "Do not dispute with each other in My presence. I gave you warning beforehand.

50:29
My words cannot be changed, nor am I unjust to My servants."

 

[Green Man]

If two men stand on the opposite side of this universe and both of them ask Allah is with me or the other guy then those who have faith knows that Allah is One and Only, He knows All, Ever Watchful and closer than jugular vein.



50:16

We created man, We know the prompting of his soul, and We are closer to him than his jugular vein.



50:17

Besides this direct knowledge ,We have assigned to every one two scribes (guardian angels), the one seated on his right and the other on his left,



50:18

not a single word does he utter but there is a vigilant guardian ready to note it down.



50:19

When the agony of death will bring the truth before his eyes, they will say: "This is what you were trying to escape!"



50:20

And the Trumpet shall be blown; that will be the Day of which you were threatened!



50:21

Each soul will come forth; with it there will be a an angel to drive and an angel to bear witness.



50:22

It will be said: "You were heedless of this, but now We have removed your veil, so your eyesight is sharp today!"



50:23

His companion will say: "Here is my testimony ready with me."



50:24

The sentence will be: "Throw into hell every stubborn disbeliever,



50:25

every opponent of good, and every doubting transgressor



50:26

who set up other gods besides Allah. Throw him into severe punishment."



50:27

His companion will say: "Our Rabb! I did not mislead him. He himself had gone far astray."



50:28

Allah will say: "Do not dispute with each other in My presence. I gave you warning beforehand.



50:29

My words cannot be changed, nor am I unjust to My servants."

So,in a round about kind of way,you're finally saying yes he can be in two places at once,correct?If the answer is yes,why do muslims have such difficulty with the concept of one God being in two places at the same time?

 

[Blackmarch]

As to the OP Title...
Something to think about.

So what about the sins of the Prophet Moses?

 

[Bookofknowledge]

So,in a round about kind of way,you're finally saying yes he can be in two places at once,correct?If the answer is yes,why do muslims have such difficulty with the concept of one God being in two places at the same time?

There is non comparable to HIM. If one claim they have seen The Creator on this earth in any shape or physical form then they are lairs.

He is closer then jugular vein. He is all hearing, ready to answer. Remember when Musa talked to Allah, Musa asked can I see you. Allah replied O Musa watch the mountain If it stays in its place you can see Me. When Allah manifested His Glory on that mountain, the mountain turned into small pieces of fine dust.

Allah says He is One and Only, there is none comparable to Him. Research what has been given and made clear instead of chasing the unseen. Allah says “take what I give you and be thankful.”

This earth is created by the Creator to Test mankind. For example those who think there should be an open test in school then they should request their exam teacher not to test and just pass everyone.



7:142
We summoned Musa to the mount of Tur for thirty nights and added ten more to complete the term of forty nights for communion with his Rabb. (Before leaving) Musa asked his brother Haroon (Aaron): "You will be in my place among my people, set a good example and do not follow the way of mischief-makers."

7:143
When Musa came to Our appointed place and his Rabb spoke to him, he asked: "O my Rabb! Give me power of sight to see You." He answered: "You cannot see Me. Look at the mountain; if it remains firm in its place then soon you might be able to see Me". When his Rabb manifested His glory on the mountain, it turned into small pieces of fine dust and Musa fell down unconscious. When Musa recovered he said: "Glory be to You! Accept my repentance and I am the first of the believers."

7:144
Allah said: "O Musa! I have chosen you from among mankind to deliver My message and to have conversation with Me: so take what I give you and be thankful."

 

[Green Man]

There is non comparable to HIM. If one claim they have seen The Creator on this earth in any shape or physical form then they are lairs.

He is closer then jugular vein. He is all hearing, ready to answer. Remember when Musa talked to Allah, Musa asked can I see you. Allah replied O Musa watch the mountain If it stays in its place you can see Me. When Allah manifested His Glory on that mountain, the mountain turned into small pieces of fine dust.

Allah says He is One and Only, there is none comparable to Him. Research what has been given and made clear instead of chasing the unseen. Allah says ?take what I give you and be thankful.?

This earth is created by the Creator to Test mankind. Those who think there should be an open test then they should request their exam teachers not to test and just pass everyone.



7:142
We summoned Musa to the mount of Tur for thirty nights and added ten more to complete the term of forty nights for communion with his Rabb. (Before leaving) Musa asked his brother Haroon (Aaron): "You will be in my place among my people, set a good example and do not follow the way of mischief-makers."

7:143
When Musa came to Our appointed place and his Rabb spoke to him, he asked: "O my Rabb! Give me power of sight to see You." He answered: "You cannot see Me. Look at the mountain; if it remains firm in its place then soon you might be able to see Me". When his Rabb manifested His glory on the mountain, it turned into small pieces of fine dust and Musa fell down unconscious. When Musa recovered he said: "Glory be to You! Accept my repentance and I am the first of the believers."

7:144
Allah said: "O Musa! I have chosen you from among mankind to deliver My message and to have conversation with Me: so take what I give you and be thankful."

Now you're implying no he cannot.If that is so he is not God and therefore is unworthy of worship.

 

[S Walch]

As to the OP Title...
Something to think about.

So what about the sins of the Prophet Moses?

We don't believe Moses was sinless though do we?


Every prophet has sinned - apart from Jesus.

Jesus was perfect, yet, only God can be perfect.

So, if Jesus was perfect, how can he be if he was but a mier human?

If God = Perfect, and Jesus = Perfect.

Then Jesus = God.

 

[Blackmarch]

We don't believe Moses was sinless though do we?


Every prophet has sinned - apart from Jesus.

Jesus was perfect, yet, only God can be perfect.

So, if Jesus was perfect, how can he be if he was but a mier human?

If God = Perfect, and Jesus = Perfect.

Then Jesus = God.

It was something to think about in relation of the OP..

Of course Christ wasn't a mere man; God gave him power and he was perfect, but on the the other hand Christ could die, so he wasn't just a mere God either.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

So,in a round about kind of way,you're finally saying yes he can be in two places at once,correct?If the answer is yes,why do muslims have such difficulty with the concept of one God being in two places at the same time?

Now you're implying no he cannot.If that is so he is not God and therefore is unworthy of worship.

Allah is Great,

Today I understood why non-believers often referred as "They take what desire them and reject the rest"

This life is a Test, mankind does not have the ability to see The Creator on earth.

Allah's powers are not in the hands of Mushrikin, that they can assign them to whomever they want

28:68
Your Rabb creates whatever He wills and chooses for His work whom He pleases. It is not for them (mushrikin) to choose and assign the powers of Allah to whom they want. Glory be to Allah! He is far above the shirk that these people commit.

28:69
Your Rabb knows all that they conceal in their hearts and all that they reveal.

28:70
He is Allah; there is no god but Him. Praise belongs to Him in this world and in the hereafter: His is the Judgement and to Him you all shall be brought back.

28:71
O Prophet, ask them: "Have you ever considered that if Allah were to make the night perpetual till the Day of Resurrection, which deity other than Allah could bring you light?" Will you not listen?

28:72
Ask them again: "Have you ever considered that if Allah were to make the day perpetual till the Day of Resurrection, which deity other than Allah could bring you the night in which you could rest? Will you not see?

28:73
It is out of His mercy that He has made for you the night that you may rest in it, and the day that you may seek His bounty, so that you may render thanks.

28:74
They should be mindful of that Day when He will call them and ask: "Where are those deities whom you deemed My associates?"

28:75
And We shall bring forth a witness from every nation and ask: "Bring your proof about other deities besides Me." Then they shall come to know that in reality there is only One God, Allah, and gods of their own inventions have left them in the lurch."

 

[S Walch]

It was something to think about in relation of the OP..

Of course Christ wasn't a mere man; God gave him power and he was perfect, but on the the other hand Christ could die, so he wasn't just a mere God either.

Well, he died and then was ressurected - so he actually "die" in that sense.

 

[Green Man]

Allah is Great,

Today I understood why non-believers often referred as "They take what desire them and reject the rest"

This life is a Test, mankind does not have the ability to see The Creator on earth.

Allah's powers are not in the hands of Mushrikin, that they can assign them to whomever they want

28:68
Your Rabb creates whatever He wills and chooses for His work whom He pleases. It is not for them (mushrikin) to choose and assign the powers of Allah to whom they want. Glory be to Allah! He is far above the shirk that these people commit.

28:69
Your Rabb knows all that they conceal in their hearts and all that they reveal.

28:70
He is Allah; there is no god but Him. Praise belongs to Him in this world and in the hereafter: His is the Judgement and to Him you all shall be brought back.

28:71
O Prophet, ask them: "Have you ever considered that if Allah were to make the night perpetual till the Day of Resurrection, which deity other than Allah could bring you light?" Will you not listen?

28:72
Ask them again: "Have you ever considered that if Allah were to make the day perpetual till the Day of Resurrection, which deity other than Allah could bring you the night in which you could rest? Will you not see?

28:73
It is out of His mercy that He has made for you the night that you may rest in it, and the day that you may seek His bounty, so that you may render thanks.

28:74
They should be mindful of that Day when He will call them and ask: "Where are those deities whom you deemed My associates?"

28:75
And We shall bring forth a witness from every nation and ask: "Bring your proof about other deities besides Me." Then they shall come to know that in reality there is only One God, Allah, and gods of their own inventions have left them in the lurch."

This is an excellent example of the old saying,if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance,baffle 'em with bull.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

This is an excellent example of the old saying,if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance,baffle 'em with bull.

how many times I have repeated mankind does not have the ability to see the Creator on earth.

Do you accept there is a Creator?

 

[markie4u2001]

How does one define barbaric? According to dictionary.com:

Marked by crudeness or lack of restraint in taste, style, or manner. \

When I read the Qur'an, I don't see that at all. Have any specific examples? In fact, adab, or manners, is central to the character of a muslim.


And from a muslim's point of view, God is the author of the Qur'an, so you are calling God barbaric and insulting us greatly. Just an fyi

Why was s Salamund Rushke issued a fatwa just for writing a novel? It wasn't even anti Islamic, it was just a novel. It was about a false prophet named Malhound which is supposed to be a derogatory name for Muhammad but it was just a Novel..

 

[Green Man]

how many times I have repeated mankind does not have the ability to see the Creator on earth.

There is no creator to see.

Do you accept there is a Creator?

There is nothing to accept.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

There is nothing to accept.

ok do me a favor I am going to ask few things tell me if you can accept it or not... OK?

First - Is there Life and Death?

Second - Is this universe created? (you can read big bang theory, which proves this universe is created and contantly expanding)

Third - Is there a barrier in-between two seas?

Fourth - Is Sun a light and moon a lamp?

Firth - there are Stages of birth (from sperm drop to birth of child)?

Sixth - If you believe in big bang theory, Do you acknowledge there is a Creator?

 

[markie4u2001]

Muslims scholars have two viewpoints about who was sacrificed instead of Jesus. One is that it was one of his enemies who was trying to kill him, in that case then he got just what he deserved. The second is that Jesus went to one of his companions and asked them who would be willing to sacrificed and take his place. One of his companions volunteered and was sacrificed. If that is true then he was a matyr and went straight to heaven. Secondly, Allah was not the one who made the coalition of Romans and Jews want to sacrifice Jesus. Jesus was sent as a final warning to the Jews to stop their bad behaviour and come back to obeying God. But since the Jews failed once again and tried to kill Jesus, God took him back up to heaven and from that point on the Israelites were no longer the chosen people. And God did not tell the Israelites that they had not sacrificed Jesus, because it did not matter. These people would not have believed, and they were going to hell anyways for having tried to kill him. The intention is as bad as the action. Anyways, they had broken their covenant so God was no longer obligated to help them anymore. They had been given the Bible, which had clear instructions and a strong message of monotheism. Anyone who would adopt false beliefs after that, such as the concept of Jesus being the son of God, was disobeying God.

Then the final prophet was sent to Medina. He is a descendent of Ishmael, son of Abraham. God sent the prophet Muhammad to confirm the message in the original Bible and Tanakh. He was sent to all of mankind, so it's obvious that the Quran would contain information about what really happened to Jesus. God perfected his religion through Islam.

Here's another view on who was crucified. http://www.nazarene.net/islam/isa.htm What Does the Quran Say about Isa (Jesus)?the Quran teaches tthat despite the false claims made by Christians
Isa (Jesus) confirmed the Taurat and did not abolish it:
"...O Isa, son of Maryam!... I strenghthened you
with the Holy Spirit... and how I taught you the Scripture
and Wisdom and the Taurat and the Injil..."
(Surah 5:110)
The QUran teaches that Isa was born of a virgin who was impregnated by the Spirit of Allah (Surahs 3:45-47; 19:16-22 & 21:91). That he was the Messiah (Surahs 3:45; 4:171 & 5:75-76) and that he performed many miricals (Surahs 2:87; 5:110).
Furthermore many do not know this but it is clear in the Quran that Isa was martyred, resurrected and ascended to Allah:
"And [remember] when you slew a man and disagreed
concerning it and Allah brought forth that which you
were hiding.
And We said: Smite him with some of it.
Thus Allah brings the dead to life and shows you his portents
so that you may understand."
(Surah 2:72-73)
"[And remember] when Allah said: O Isa! Lo! I am
gathering you and causing you to ascend to Me, and am
cleansing you of those who disbelieve and am setting those
who follow you [Isa] above those who disbelieve until
the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me you will return
and I shall judge between you as to that wherein
you used to differ."
(Surah 3:55)
Some have falsely claimed that Surah 4:157 of the Quran denies that ISa was crucified.
Surah 4:157 reads in the Pickthall translation:
And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah
Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger-- They slew
him not nor crucified, but it appeared so unto them;
and lo! those wo disagree concerning it are in doubt
thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit
of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain,
The phrase "nor crucified" in the Arabic is WAMA SALABOOHU literally "they crucified him not." This verb SALAB is active rather than passive. This means that the passage does NOT as is commonly taught, teach that Isa was not crucified (passive) but it does deny that THEY (the Jews) were to be blamed. It does not deny that Isa was crucifed, it simply denies that THEY the Jews crucified him. (Isa was actually crucified by the Romans). This fits with the context of this section of the Quran.

 

[Muslim]

Here's another view on who was crucified. http://www.nazarene.net/islam/isa.htm What Does the Quran Say about Isa (Jesus)?the Quran teaches tthat despite the false claims made by Christians
Isa (Jesus) confirmed the Taurat and did not abolish it:
"...O Isa, son of Maryam!... I strenghthened you
with the Holy Spirit... and how I taught you the Scripture
and Wisdom and the Taurat and the Injil..."
(Surah 5:110)
The QUran teaches that Isa was born of a virgin who was impregnated by the Spirit of Allah (Surahs 3:45-47; 19:16-22 & 21:91). That he was the Messiah (Surahs 3:45; 4:171 & 5:75-76) and that he performed many miricals (Surahs 2:87; 5:110).
Furthermore many do not know this but it is clear in the Quran that Isa was martyred, resurrected and ascended to Allah:
"And [remember] when you slew a man and disagreed
concerning it and Allah brought forth that which you
were hiding.
And We said: Smite him with some of it.
Thus Allah brings the dead to life and shows you his portents
so that you may understand."
(Surah 2:72-73)
"[And remember] when Allah said: O Isa! Lo! I am
gathering you and causing you to ascend to Me, and am
cleansing you of those who disbelieve and am setting those
who follow you [Isa] above those who disbelieve until
the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me you will return
and I shall judge between you as to that wherein
you used to differ."
(Surah 3:55)
Some have falsely claimed that Surah 4:157 of the Quran denies that ISa was crucified.
Surah 4:157 reads in the Pickthall translation:
And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah
Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger-- They slew
him not nor crucified, but it appeared so unto them;
and lo! those wo disagree concerning it are in doubt
thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit
of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain,
The phrase "nor crucified" in the Arabic is WAMA SALABOOHU literally "they crucified him not." This verb SALAB is active rather than passive. This means that the passage does NOT as is commonly taught, teach that Isa was not crucified (passive) but it does deny that THEY (the Jews) were to be blamed. It does not deny that Isa was crucifed, it simply denies that THEY the Jews crucified him. (Isa was actually crucified by the Romans). This fits with the context of this section of the Quran.

Allah specifically mentions in the verse that even though they didn't crucify him, that it was made to appear so to them. So whoever the verse is referring to, whether it be Jews or Romans, it was made to appear that they crucified him. And also, take a look at the last part of the verse where God says that they killed him not. I think thats the strongest piece of evidence.

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

 

[markie4u2001]

Why do you need to know who was crucified instead. Is it going to help you in any way? No, you are just searching for information that will not help you to get to heaven. We Muslims believe that if knowing a piece of information that wont help you in your worship of God, then theres no reason to know it.



Once again, if the Quran was not written by the prophet Muhammad then prove it.

I thought he was supposed to be illiterate.

 

[Green Man]

ok do me a favor I am going to ask few things tell me if you can accept it or not... OK?

First - Is there Life and Death?

Second - Is this universe created? (you can read big bang theory, which proves this universe is created and contantly expanding)

Third - Is there a barrier in-between two seas?

Fourth - Is Sun a light and moon a lamp?

Firth - there are Stages of birth (from sperm drop to birth of child)?

Sixth - If you believe in big bang theory, Do you acknowledge there is a Creator?

1.Yes there is life and death.
2.The universe is not created.The big bang theory is only that,a theory.And it does not prove anything.
3.A barrier between two seas...no
4.That's just plain silly.
5.stages of birth?of course
6.There is no creator to acknowledge.