Green Man said:
you previously got a 2 interpretation for it which will mean:
that man was either one of those who wants to kill Jesus(as) so he
deserve it, or
one of the disciples and he'll be rewarded by Allah
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Green Man said:So,they crucified an innocent man.
Whether or not he deserved it is irrelevant.He was innocent of the charges so an innocent man was murdered.Dawah said:you previously got a 2 interpretation for it which will mean:
that man was either one of those who wants to kill Jesus(as) so he
deserve it, or
one of the disciples and he'll be rewarded by Allah
Green Man said:God exists only in the human imagination.I am attempting to get a definition as to what that line means,and I don't care about the rest.
InnerPhyre said:What about Jesus's mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary? She was there at the crucifixion. Why was she also deceived into thinking her Son was dying on the cross?
Bookofknowledge said:Following are your options choose wise.
In this case you have to wait until Jesus descend to earth or Day of Judgment or Understand the rest or wait until you see the angel of Death.
Have you seen the body of Fir'on?
10:90
We led the Children of Israel across the sea. Fir'on and his hosts pursued them with wickedness and oppression, until when drowning, he cried out: "I believe that there is no god but Him in Whom the Children of Israel believe and I have become one of the Muslims."
10:91
In response it was said to him: "Now you believe! But a little while before you were disobedient and one of the mischief-makers!
10:92
We shall save your body this day, so that you may become a sign for the succeeding generations, indeed many among mankind are heedless of Our signs!"
Allah struck him dumb of course.InnerPhyre said:Also, all the accounts of the crucifixion indicate that Jesus said nothing in His own defense. If the person who was thought to be Jesus was crucified in His place, why did this person not cry out and scream that he was not Jesus?
Bookofknowledge said:read post number 180
If you are unable to get the message out of thsoe verse then let me know.
InnerPhyre said:I understand who Mary was. If anyone understands her importance it is us Catholics. She was the most pure woman ever to live and was chosen by God to give birth to the Savior. I still fail to see how that answered my question about her being present at the crucifixion though.
Bookofknowledge said:read post number 180
If you are unable to get the message out of thsoe verse then let me know.
Bookofknowledge said:Let go with your believe for instance - tell me as per your believe, what was the age of Jesus when he was killed?
Green Man said:Jesus is not coming back and the judgement is a myth.
InnerPhyre said:
Bookofknowledge said:thank you, now according to you and at the time of Mary, 33 year old man was consider old?
Bookofknowledge said:Research the light of SUN - it will indeed perish and so does every thing on earth.
A scene from the scenes of the doomsday
81:1
When the sun will cease to shine;
81:2
when the stars will loose their luster;
81:3
when the mountains will be blown away;
InnerPhyre said:What you don't understand is that Christians believe that Jesus is still alive today, because although He died, He rose again from the dead on the third day. So at this point, I would say Jesus is quite old indeed and He is still very much alive
Bookofknowledge said:I am just asking you some facts with regards to what you know about that time. whatever it may be its your believe that "Jesus is still alive", I am not commenting on your believe. you told me that when all that happen, Jesus was 33 years old, so 33 years of age was considered old age during that time or not?
Green Man said:This earth is not going to end anytime soon.There is no doomsday.
InnerPhyre said:I do not know if it was considered old age, but whether it was or not isn't really what concerns Christians, since the Bible doesn't mention what the Qur'an does about Jesus's "old age" and we follow the Bible.
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