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Metanoia02
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A better question might be why can't women be Priests.secretdawn said:
They were never priest from the first day of the Church. This is how the early Church was established. The Church can't just change what has been ordained from the very beginning.
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Benedicta00
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Becausesecretdawn said:
Jesus did not want that. Woman have a special role in this world and men have theirs and God chose men to shepherd the faithful and I believe no other explanation is necessary. That does not mean woman do not have an important role in the Church, they do but offering Mass and giving absolution for sins is something entirely different then just pasturing a flock like in Protestantism.
A priest and a protestant minister are two entirly different things and have different roles that they play in the faithful's life.
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It's weird, but I've been to very "charismatic" AOG church services and ones which were very low-key, and very traditional. (Traditional hymns, no speaking in tongues, no jumping around, etc.)secretdawn said:
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Most of the churches do have a traditional service...mostly for older people (no offense intended) who claim the more modern one gives them a headache lolBastoune said:
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I always wondered if it was because that is just the way it was back then or if there was somewhere that actually says "women can not be spiritual leaders".
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Benedicta00
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secretdawn said:
It was that way and will always be. Women can be leaders they just can not offer mass and hear confessions.
The priest when does this, acts in the person of Christ and Christ is a man.
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Polycarp1
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The ancient tradition of the church was that only a man could receive the sacrament of Holy Orders -- except that one can argue that women were ordained as Deaconesses, as Scripture alludes to of a few devout women. But the word may not mean "deacon" but "person who provides help" which is the literal meaning of diakonos outside a churchly context. A Greek hero in the old legends was normally accompanied by a man who helped him with his armor, drove his chariot, and fought alongside him, and that man was officially his "charioteer" but often referred to as his "diakonos", with a connotation of "sidekick."
In the last 25 years, the churches dating from the Reformation era, including my own, who claim to have preserved Holy Orders as the Catholic and Orthodox churches understand it, have arrived at the conclusion that the tradition of only male priests is not a doctrinal requirement as set forth by God but rather a rule of the church based in the relative training and education of men vs. women through history, and that women can therefore be ordained to the sacramental priesthood and even the episcopacy. This is not acceptable to the Catholic Church or the Orthodox.
In the last 25 years, the churches dating from the Reformation era, including my own, who claim to have preserved Holy Orders as the Catholic and Orthodox churches understand it, have arrived at the conclusion that the tradition of only male priests is not a doctrinal requirement as set forth by God but rather a rule of the church based in the relative training and education of men vs. women through history, and that women can therefore be ordained to the sacramental priesthood and even the episcopacy. This is not acceptable to the Catholic Church or the Orthodox.
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"It does...(it shows for one that my school needs new history books!)"
umm never rely on public school text books for any reliable information regarding the church...ever
umm never rely on public school text books for any reliable information regarding the church...ever
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ps139
Ab omni malo, libera nos, Domine!
I think it is because of this verse:secretdawn said:
1 Cor 14: 33-34
For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.
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Also because Jesus was a man, the OT priests were men, the Apostles were men... women definitely had an important role and are honoured in the Bible (OT and NT) and Mary is indeed "blessed" among all women... just can't be priests.
We all have our part to play in the body of Christ (Eph. 4; 1 Cor. 12).
We all have our part to play in the body of Christ (Eph. 4; 1 Cor. 12).
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