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Sven1967 said:
Wow! Who peed in your corn flakes? I hope it wasn't my simple question about the virginity of Mary. If that sets you off, I can only imagine how you react when someone tells you what you believe - Like you did with me.

Now, are you sure that you have all of my beliefs capulized correctly? If you want to discuss the Trinity, I suggest that you post to the thread about the Trinity. Also, you probably should do a little more research about the Trinity before you spout off about what I believe.

Have a great evening, I am.

Sven

I wondered why it tasted so weird this morning... ;)

Oh and i wasn't "going off", if that was going off then you are in for a surprise when it really happens..

I never said i knew all your beliefs, i said i could only go off of what i have read, and then i can make a conclusion about what you believe. I was only going off the facts i had gathered about what you believe. which is perfectly normal around here, to make assumptions about what someone believes, instead of asking them directly., so i'm glad i fit in....
 
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OZBentley said:
But Modalists are considered Christian. whether or not it has anything to do with the trinity has little to do with it.

I want to know what your explanation of the creation of Christ from the Holy Ghost is? so i can relate it towards your belief, now that you have confirmed what it is.

The Bible says it all.
 
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Ran77 said:
Then Heavenly Father caused Mary to become pregnant with His literal offspring - thus giving Christ the twin bloodlines of mortal and deity which was essential for His mission as the Savior.


:)

Deity isn't a bloodline. The LDS god has no blood either.
 
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OZBentley said:
I wondered why it tasted so weird this morning... ;)

^_^ ^_^

OZBentley said:
Oh and i wasn't "going off", if that was going off then you are in for a surprise when it really happens..

No thanks. I gave up being around that type of people when I retired from the Army. ;)

OZBentley said:
I never said i knew all your beliefs, i said i could only go off of what i have read, and then i can make a conclusion about what you believe. I was only going off the facts i had gathered about what you believe. which is perfectly normal around here, to make assumptions about what someone believes, instead of asking them directly., so i'm glad i fit in....

I am really curious about how you came to your conclusions based on my posts. Please specify which ones. If you will notice, I go to extremes NOT to tell people what they believe. I usually just ask questions or share what I believed or was taught as a member of your church. Perhaps you should keep that in mind when discussing things with me. Deal?

Sven
 
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Ran77 said:
I'm sorry, I won't post to you again. Well, not again, after this apology. And please go ahead and respond to this so you can have the satisfaction of having had the last word.


:)

Apology accepted, but no thanks. You answered my question. That's all I was interested in.

Have a nice New Year.

Sven
 
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GodsWordisTrue said:
Deity isn't a bloodline. The LDS god has no blood either.

You are right. Bloodline is used to indicate heritage, but that would only apply to mortals who have blood. Dual nature, is what I should have said. Thanks for the correction.

:)
 
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OZBentley said:
But Modalists are considered Christian. whether or not it has anything to do with the trinity has little to do with it.

Considered Christian by who?

I want to know what your explanation of the creation of Christ from the Holy Ghost is?

Christ wasn't created, let alone by the Holy Spirit (not Ghost; the HS is not a phantasm). All the HS did was merely implant, miraculously, into Mary that which would become Jesus' physical body. Other than that, Jesus has always co-existed with the Father.

John 17:5 "And now, glorify Thou Me together with Thyself, Father, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was."
 
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Swart said:
By those who accept the Biblical definition of who is a Christian without extra qualification.

Modalism, though, is not accepting the biblical definition of who a Christian is without extra qualification. Modalism is a heretical definition of who God is, and has absolutely nothing to do with biblical revelation. So, I'm still wondering, just who is it that says that Modalists are Christian?
 
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Deren said:
Modalism, though, is not accepting the biblical definition of who a Christian is without extra qualification. Modalism is a heretical definition of who God is, and has absolutely nothing to do with biblical revelation. So, I'm still wondering, just who is it that says that Modalists are Christian?

This avoids the point completely.

There is a difference between the biblical definition of who Christ is, and the biblical definition of those who belong to Christ.

You can't mix the two issues. They are separate and crucial. You can't say those who don't accept your interpretation of the nature of God are not Christian and then ignore the explicit definition of what it is to be a Christian.

That is going against what the Bible teaches. If you think someone has an erroneous belief about something, by all means establish that with evidence. The very moment you put yourself in the place of Christ and begin to judge anothers standing before God, you yourself are acting explicitly against the teachings of Christ. Placing a 'non-Christian' status on someone who claims to be a Christian is placing a judgement upon them, and potentially a judgement upon yourself.
 
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Deren said:
Modalism, though, is not accepting the biblical definition of who a Christian is without extra qualification. Modalism is a heretical definition of who God is, and has absolutely nothing to do with biblical revelation. So, I'm still wondering, just who is it that says that Modalists are Christian?

Trinitarianism, though, is not accepting the biblical definition of who a Christian is without extra qualification. Trinity is a heretical definition of who God is, and has absolutely nothing to do with biblical revelation. So, I'm still wondering, just who is it that says that Trinitarians are Christian
 
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