LoveGodsWord
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Your response here...No one is telling you to get your righteousness from law keeping so the scriptures you provide here are not relevant in our discussion here. According to the scriptures we cannot get our righteousness from keeping the law because all of us have sinned and fall short of God's glory according to the scriptures (see Romans 3:9-23).
Our forgiveness only comes from God's mercy and grace that we can only receive as a free gift from God that comes by faith alone in Gods' promise of forgiveness as we believe and follow what Gods' Word says. Now so you understand what I believe and there is no misunderstandings, according to the scriptures, we are saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God and not of works lest any man should boast *Ephesians 2:8-9.
As posted earlier, obedience to God's words are not how we are saved it is the fruit of genuine faith of one that is already been given Gods promise of forgiveness and salvation and the fruit of God's work in us *Philippians 2:13 as we believe and follow his word *John 10:26-27; Romans 8:1-4; Hebrews 8:10-12. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *James 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *Matthew 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50; Hebrews 10:26-27.
Therefore we do not abolish God's law through faith like some people teach but God's law is established in the heart by faith that works by love *Romans 3:31; 1 John 5:3-4; Romans 13:8-10. According to the scriptures, sin (breaking God' commandments and not believing and following God's Word) is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 John 3:6-10; 1 John 2:3-4; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14. At the second coming Christs reward is with him *Revelation 22:12.
Once again dear friend, Gods' Word does not teach lawlessness (without law), for without law we have no knowledge of what sin is *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7. I asked you earlier do you know what the meaning of Matthew 9:12-13 is which you did not answer. Do you know the meaning the words of Jesus in Matthew 9:12-13? This demonstrates the purpose of the law (God's 10 commandments) in the new covenant.
"Yes look at the words in Romans 3:30-31, and for all people the law is established through faith. It cant be establishing the law that is without faith, as that law was not established, as it could not be, because it is the law of works. But, what is established is told just earlier in the passage, it is the LAW OF FAITH.. Romans 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Look at Romans 13 by all means, it is not speaking about the law of works, it is only speaking of the law of faith, ( the previous law of works is not of faith and cannot be taught, as it was without faith)
These are not taught to be kept, this is known in the heart by all who know that love is the fulfilling of the law, that is through the faith of Jesus Christ only, it is not in the Jewish law keeping religion, nor any similar man made religion that teaches law ( and words it any way they think is acceptable when it is not faith at all),,
Romans 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
The law is our own righteousness by law keeping ( is that not the religion of Judaism and always has been?)
Now there is a separate way ( narrow and hidden, which needs faith given to be revealed) and it is solely through the faith of Christ, ( never was mans faith) it is the righteousness which is of God by faith ( His faith, His righteousness) to know Christ, in the power ( belief) of His resurrection, the fellowship of His sufferings, being made the same as His death ( this is all the faith of Christ and is how you approach to the Father) and alive to righteousness is when you understand, all without faith still do all of those works of the flesh, even though they say they do not, because no one who teaches to not break the law, can keep the law, they teach letter, which is death, and not faith at all..
Philemon 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Romans 2:21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
Your post here, really makes no sense in response to the post you are quoting from. No one is in Christ by breaking God's commandments and not believing and following what Gods Word says. Faith works through God's Word not outside and separate from it as faith comes my hearing and hearing by the Word of God *Romans 10:17 and without this faith that comes from Gods Word it is impossible to please God *Hebrews 11:6 because whatsoever is not of faith is sin *Romans 14:26. So no one is in Christ (the Word) by not believing and following what Gods' Word says.
Take Care.
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