Sin

[aforchrist33]

Do you believe we are to continue confessing sins after salvation?

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[solo66 man]

The word says confess to one another
James 5
16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.

1 John 1
9 If we confess our sins , he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

Acts 19
18Many of those who believed now came and openly confessed their evil deeds.

And there is more.

 

[zamar]

1 John 1:9 Works everytime.

Of course our confession should be to God and not another man.
Z

 

[JohnR7]

>>Do you believe we are to continue confessing sins?

I think we should quit sinning, so that there is nothing to confess. If your going keep right on sinning, it will not do any good to confess it, because God will know your only sorry your not allowed to sin, and that your not at all sorry for being a sinner.

 

[BigEd]

I have to disagree with you, in part, JohnR7.

There are some sins in life which are grieving but very difficult to stop.
I know this as I am a person recovering from addiction.
there is some sin that has me in thral only the power Of the Lord can change me and turn me from this sin.
I am not perfect yet , so I still need to confess sin.

1Jn. 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the
truth is not in us.

 

[SenseiPiccolo]

Originally posted by JohnR7
>>Do you believe we are to continue confessing sins?

I think we should quit sinning, so that there is nothing to confess. If your going keep right on sinning, it will not do any good to confess it, because God will know your only sorry your not allowed to sin, and that your not at all sorry for being a sinner.

Theres no way to stop sinning, but we do have an advocate-- Christ Jesus


The Bible says:

They that knoweth to do good and doth it not-- to them is sin.

Even the rightious man sinneth seven times in a day.



but thanks be to Jesus for paying the price for our sins!!

 

[solo66 man]

Originally posted by JohnR7
>>Do you believe we are to continue confessing sins?

I think we should quit sinning, so that there is nothing to confess. If your going keep right on sinning, it will not do any good to confess it, because God will know your only sorry your not allowed to sin, and that your not at all sorry for being a sinner.

Are you sinless? You are the only one in the world who is if you say you are or you are deceived. Which would be more like it. (Deceived that is.)

 

[Dave Ulchers]

If you say you are without sin you are decieved, because to say such a thing is vanity and a sin in and of itself.

As John the Evangelist makes clear, the children of God do not sin. I wonder who's children would like us to believe otherwise?

 

[Dave Ulchers]

Originally posted by SenseiPiccolo
They that knoweth to do good and doth it not-- to them is sin.

Still, that doesn't mean there aren't such people that do what is right.

Even the rightious man sinneth seven times in a day.

"Even a just man falls seven times a day." A fall isn't the same thing as a sin.

As Marguerite Porete writes:

I will tell you what it means that the just man falls seven times each day. It means that insofar as the will of the just man is completely given over to the comtemplation of the divine goodness without any impediment, the body is feeble and tends towards defect because of the nourishment of the sin of Adam and thus is inclined often to give attention to lesser things than the goodness of God. And Scripture calls this a fall, for so it is. But the will of the just man is kept from consenting to the defect, which could grow from such an inclination. So such a fall, by which the just man falls through the above said inclination, is more virtuous for him than vice, because of his will, which remains free through the refusal of all defect, as has been said. Now, you can see how the just man falls so low from so high, and how this fall, however low it might be, is more virtuous than vice.

Now pay attention. Since the just man falls seven times each day, it is necessary that he be lifted seven times, else he could not fall seven times. The one is blessed who often falls, for it follows that he came from the place where no one goes if he does not have, by righteousness, the name of "just." However, the one is the most blessed who always remains there. No one is able to always be there as long as the soul is accompanied by this wretched body in this world; but this fall does not cause the loss of peace through guilt or remorse of conscious, for the Soul lives by the peace of the gifts given to he above the Virtues -- not contrary to the Virtues, but above. If this could not be, the God would be subject to His Virtues, and the Virtues would be contrary to the Soul, Virtues who have their being from the Lord, for the sake of the profit of the Soul.

 

[paulewog]

John says, If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves. read 1st John sometime.


very interesting.

 

[Dave Ulchers]

Even Jesus never said he was without sin. It's a sin to say you are without sin. It ain't a sin to be without sin, though.

 

[JohnR7]

>>Even Jesus never said he was without sin.

Spoken like a true harlot. If your trying to say Jesus was a sinner, that would be blasphemy.

The truth is, the reason He was able to take our place at calvery, was because He had no sin.

2 Cor. 5:21
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

If Jesus was a sinner, and He went around preaching that people should quit sinning, then that would make Him a hyprocrate. He would be preaching something that He himself was not doing. Jesus was not a hyprocrate.

 

[solo66 man]

Originally posted by Dave Ulchers
Even Jesus never said he was without sin. It's a sin to say you are without sin. It ain't a sin to be without sin, though.

Jesus was tempted, even by Satan in the desert, but he new no sin. Which is why His death is of effect.

 

[Dave Ulchers]

Originally posted by JohnR7
If your trying to say Jesus was a sinner, that would be blasphemy.

I didn't say that. What I meant was someone who is without sin -- Jesus being one example we can all agree one -- shouldn't say they are without sin. "If we say, 'We are without sin,' we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

 

[aforchrist33]

Dear Paulewong;

(1 John 1:8,9) is refering to a sinner.

 

[aforchrist33]

Dear Solo66man;

You said,

1. (James 5:16) stated confess your "Sins" Not so! For one thing James was addressing Jews under a covenant realationship of works. (James 1:1) He told them to confess their "Faults" to each other volentarily so God could help them, not damn them if they didn't.

2. Jewish Individuals confessing Jesus as their messiah "Once for salvation" was enough to save them eternally. Can you give me a scripture saying confessing was repeditiveness after the cross? (1 John 1:9)

3. As for your comment on their being more scriptures, I say there are also more explainations by "Rightly dividing" (2 Timothy 2:15) God bless!

 

[aforchrist33]

Dear Zemar;

You said, (1 John 1:9) "Works every time"

Yes "Once" for salvation!

 

[aforchrist33]

Dear Joanr7;

You said,

1. "We should quit sinning, so that there is nothing to confess" Do you know anyone including yourself who has stop sinning in order to stop confessing?

2. The wages of sin is "Death" not "Sorrow" You can be sorry all you want but without blood is no fogiveness! God bless!

 

[aforchrist33]

Dear BigEd;

1. Your right about having difficulty with weaknesses of the flesh, as did Paul. (Romans 7:15,17,18,19,20,25)

2. As to your claiming to be in need of confession due to no "Being perfect yet" I would ask if you had a scripture encouraging us to confess repeditively after salvation? God bless!

 

[aforchrist33]

Dear Senselpiccolo;

Welcome!

Amen to your response to JOHNR7