B
BigBadWlf
Guest
and there are significant issues with the translation of the modern English bible
Upvote
0
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
and there are significant issues with the translation of the modern English bibleIf the current translation of the English bible is indeed correct, then the entire bible could easily be considered as gay bashing. What's your point?
Racists happily used the bible to protest the legalization of interracial marriage were they just wrong?Jesus clearly defines marriage in Matthew Chapter 19. No need to tell people what marriage isnt when you tell them what it is or to keep telling people what sin is either when He clearly said the law had not passed away.
The law was given for the knowledge of sin and declares us all guilty before god. Homosexual relations are sin. If one is not repentant of it - they are still in that sin.
As to your bolded comment - Its hard to fathom with comments like that how anyone would be able to accuse anyone of bashing anything.
And do you feel good attacking our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters?Hey if you feel good personally attacking people like I told lynn, then have a nice day. I am all for making someone feel better about themselves and if thats what it takes so be it.
Do you really believe you are following Jesus here?Remember though as Jesus said - do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Yes they were wrong if they did that. What verses did they use? You can certainly start a new thread and ill be more than happy to discuss that issue with you. Start by posting the verses they used and we will explore them. Lets not take this thread off topic ok.BigBadWlf said:Racists happily used the bible to protest the legalization of interracial marriage…were they just wrong?
Saying that the bible calls it is an attack? Hardly. I havent attacked anyone. Do you feel good bearing false witness?And do you feel good attacking our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters?
Yes. If I didnt I wouldnt be here-I would let those who fall into the pit by upholding sin conditions fall in their sin by witholding the truth instead.Do you really believe you are following Jesus here?
You have a long history of ignoring such posts. Why would you not ignore them now?What verses did they use? You can certainly start a new thread and ill be more than happy to discuss that issue with you. Start by posting the verses they used and we will explore them. Lets not take this thread off topic ok.
You are in error. Can you show evidence of that? Link to the posts where ive ignored them in threads on the topic I was in. If not - you may retract your false statement.You have a long history of ignoring such posts. Why would you not ignore them now?
Racists happily used the bible to protest the legalization of interracial marriage were they just wrong?
Suicide? That's their problem for being weak and sinful like everyone else outside of Christ. The truth is, they've gotten there too soon.
That is why we come here to teach the truth.
we have to remember His [Jesus'] harsh rebukes including at the moneychangers on the temple grounds where He got physically animated with a whip, overturning tables in anger & zeal.
Just to clarify that Jesus' nature wasn't all flower power & peace signs.
- do you accept pedophilia?
how about attacks on Christians by CHRISTIAN bashers???
if gay bashing includes any who disagree with the lifestyle
Emotional wording.Thus the claim the antigay faction acts out of love is clearly disproved.
Let me show how we know that.
Paul coined 179 new words in the New Testament.
It is easy to see where he got this one... for he derived it from the Greek translation
of the Old Testament called the "Septuagint"
meta arsenos ou koimethese koiten gyniakos
Leviticus 18:22
("Thou shalt not lie with mankind,
as with womankind; it is an abomination.")
hos an koimethe meta arsenos koiten gynaikos
Leviticus 20:13
("If a man also lie with mankind,
as he lieth with a woman,
both of them hath committed an abomination.")
Paul coined the term arsenokoite,
by taking two words from the Levitical passages‑
‑in the Greek translation‑
‑forbidding homosexual behavior.
The meaning can not be clearer.
The word is unique to Paul, but it clearly refers to homosexuality.
Let us take a good look at what the word literally means...
And see why Paul put two words together to mean ‘homosexuality'
First, 'Arsene,'
appears few times in the N. T.,
and always means "male." '
Koite' appears only twice in the N. T.,
and is translated "bed,"
but it does not just mean a piece of furniture on which to rest...
It was chosen due to the translators' unwillingness to more
accurately say what it meant,
so the word ‘bed' was used in a sexual connotation,
attempting to be somewhat discreet.:
For instance,
would the word ‘bed' fit this verse for ‘koite'?
"Let us behave decently,
as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness,
not in sexual immorality [koite]
and debauchery..."
Rom 13:13
And in the other verse in which we find "koite"
we see...
"Marriage should be honored by all,
and the marriage bed [koite] kept pure,
for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral."
Hebrews 13:4
where we see, again it refers to a sexual connotation,
of some action happening in
marital relations,
indicating that this action within a marriage
(of a man and woman, as outlined in both the O.T. and N.T.,
including the words of Jesus on the subject)
is undefiled,
if done between a man and woman in marriage.
The word koite is significant,
and does need a bit more study...
.in Arnt/Gingrich's lexicon....
It shows that the word
"koite' refers to ‘sexual intercourse'
that occurs
whether in a marriage bed,
or a bed of adultery...
But it goes on and explain
that it refers to the part of the intercourse which involves
"Seminal emission"
indicating that it is the emission of sperm,
in marriage or in adultery that is referred to...
So when you put the word Koite, with the word male...
You get a word that means,
***a male receiving seminal emission from another male.***
hence we are back where we started where in the verses
the translators said it meant...
"them that defile themselves with mankind"
and
"Abusers of themselves with mankind"
and we can understand why Paul coined the word
from seeing both those words used in the Greek Septuaguint
of Leviticus verses referring to homosexual behavior...
Therefore, homosexual behavior is meant...
and it is obviously so...
twisting words may salve a conscience...
but the Holy Spirit still speaks to hearts
as the Spirit of Truth...
Hey if you feel good personally attacking people like I told lynn, then have a nice day. I am all for making someone feel better about themselves and if thats what it takes so be it.
Remember though as Jesus said - do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
We need to define "gay bashing".Hey, relay your message to those who need it- I didn't attack anyone.
Besides, anyone that supports gay bashing has no room to talk about attacking others.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?