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Significant evidence evolution is false
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I can't very well address a misconception until it comes up. People think all kinds of crazy things about Christianity and creationism though. Perhaps creationism has earned the reputation and such, but not Christianity. That's just plain ignorance.
Why don't you tell me about Christianity and I'll see if there are any misconceptions to correct?
Why don't you tell me about Christianity and I'll see if there are any misconceptions to correct?
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I'll answer your question after you answer mine. You said that evolutionists have misconceptions about creationism. Well then, please demonstrate some misconceptions for us.
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"Both views are just theories. Currently one has many more facts than the other"
This is simply an opinion of yours; please realize that is entirely relative to you, through man's science. Facts through the science of man has taught you and others. The facts and evidence has not been reviewed and shown to you through ways that would reveal the real truth.
When I say man's science I mean the common science of man, disregarding all of what God has said. It sounds strange to say man's science because that may seem to imply inferiority. I just use the words 'man's science' to simplify the message. The 'science of man' more so refers to the science of the non-Christians and non-bible believing 'Christians'.
"Since no matter how many people say they can disprove, evolution has many more checkable facts than creationism."
Evolution might have many more checkable 'facts' than creationism does when it comes to the logic and science of man, that man has compiled and found, but when you enter into the logic and science of God, the science and logic you can see that he bestows unto you, then there are hundreds if not thousands of times more checkable facts you could enter in to. But if I could mention them to you, it would be pointless because were not taught to see this evidence.
"Since creationism is based on stories in a book, that cant be competly varified and belief. Which is fine, however when you are talking about facts and evidence, these cant be used as evidence. They can be used as ideas however."
There are differences between stories in any book and true stories in one of the most accurate pieces of world history.
"oh dear I haven't got any evidence, what am I going to do
I know, I'll write a huge confused essay on "god's science" and "mans science" and then claim that you aren't equipped to understand god's science"
This is exactly what I knew and said you would say.
Jumping to conclusions and making assumptions yet *again*.
"Most evolution scientists just doesn't give a **** about the uneducated masses of creationists. "
Another assumption, you assume creationists aren't educated, when many of them are very very well educated. Some of the greatest scientific minds have been creationists. And if you don't understand why, it's because they knew where and how to look at what they were looking for, and saw the truth in it.
I've also realized that this isn't my battle to fight, at least not right now.
Creationism, God, and the word, all stand up for themselves. They don't stand up for themselves against you guys, they don't need to, or have to. They can't because you are taught to ignore these things. There are plenty other battles that I need to attend to, some of them my own.
I can help God save many more souls by talking to those who have more open minds.
What I have been trying to explain is extremely complex. It took me all that typing to try and explain it to you. I don't expect all of you to understand it.
All it takes is one person to bring thousands of people closer to God.
IF you bother to look at today's TV and music you'd see the morals our forefathers founded this country on are being insulted by filth and lust of the flesh. Self righteousness and selfishness are running rampid. Many people are taught at young ages that they can get away with more and more, and this is why our society has been at a constant state of moral death. This sort of behavior is taught acceptable indirectly through TV, many parents, music, and most severely, their friends and other society. I see it on a daily basis, if someone else does it, they believe it is right and acceptable for them to do it.
God brings order from chaos. The only reason our entire society hasn't fallen apart today is because there are a chosen few that keep it together.
I have seen so many sources and links about evolution and so many faults in them; I have lost the patience to fight a battle like this. It would take me an extraordinarily long amount of time (that I need to spend elsewhere) to try and prove my point.
If you look at life from the logic of God, you'd see how he arranged so many things, in the universe and in the world, and the purpose behind them. You'd see so many extremely obvious revelations that so many people never realize until they come to God. God actually is a loud God, he likes to show off everyday what he can do, this is how so many Christians believe in him so much, they can see the things he does, and their minds are geared towards seeing them. It is amazing the things God has done for me in my life, even just on a daily basis.
So many people are taught nearly from birth to blind their spiritual ears and eyes and blind their minds to these things.
This is simply an opinion of yours; please realize that is entirely relative to you, through man's science. Facts through the science of man has taught you and others. The facts and evidence has not been reviewed and shown to you through ways that would reveal the real truth.
When I say man's science I mean the common science of man, disregarding all of what God has said. It sounds strange to say man's science because that may seem to imply inferiority. I just use the words 'man's science' to simplify the message. The 'science of man' more so refers to the science of the non-Christians and non-bible believing 'Christians'.
"Since no matter how many people say they can disprove, evolution has many more checkable facts than creationism."
Evolution might have many more checkable 'facts' than creationism does when it comes to the logic and science of man, that man has compiled and found, but when you enter into the logic and science of God, the science and logic you can see that he bestows unto you, then there are hundreds if not thousands of times more checkable facts you could enter in to. But if I could mention them to you, it would be pointless because were not taught to see this evidence.
"Since creationism is based on stories in a book, that cant be competly varified and belief. Which is fine, however when you are talking about facts and evidence, these cant be used as evidence. They can be used as ideas however."
There are differences between stories in any book and true stories in one of the most accurate pieces of world history.
"oh dear I haven't got any evidence, what am I going to do
I know, I'll write a huge confused essay on "god's science" and "mans science" and then claim that you aren't equipped to understand god's science"
This is exactly what I knew and said you would say.
Jumping to conclusions and making assumptions yet *again*.
"Most evolution scientists just doesn't give a **** about the uneducated masses of creationists. "
Another assumption, you assume creationists aren't educated, when many of them are very very well educated. Some of the greatest scientific minds have been creationists. And if you don't understand why, it's because they knew where and how to look at what they were looking for, and saw the truth in it.
I've also realized that this isn't my battle to fight, at least not right now.
Creationism, God, and the word, all stand up for themselves. They don't stand up for themselves against you guys, they don't need to, or have to. They can't because you are taught to ignore these things. There are plenty other battles that I need to attend to, some of them my own.
I can help God save many more souls by talking to those who have more open minds.
What I have been trying to explain is extremely complex. It took me all that typing to try and explain it to you. I don't expect all of you to understand it.
All it takes is one person to bring thousands of people closer to God.
IF you bother to look at today's TV and music you'd see the morals our forefathers founded this country on are being insulted by filth and lust of the flesh. Self righteousness and selfishness are running rampid. Many people are taught at young ages that they can get away with more and more, and this is why our society has been at a constant state of moral death. This sort of behavior is taught acceptable indirectly through TV, many parents, music, and most severely, their friends and other society. I see it on a daily basis, if someone else does it, they believe it is right and acceptable for them to do it.
God brings order from chaos. The only reason our entire society hasn't fallen apart today is because there are a chosen few that keep it together.
I have seen so many sources and links about evolution and so many faults in them; I have lost the patience to fight a battle like this. It would take me an extraordinarily long amount of time (that I need to spend elsewhere) to try and prove my point.
If you look at life from the logic of God, you'd see how he arranged so many things, in the universe and in the world, and the purpose behind them. You'd see so many extremely obvious revelations that so many people never realize until they come to God. God actually is a loud God, he likes to show off everyday what he can do, this is how so many Christians believe in him so much, they can see the things he does, and their minds are geared towards seeing them. It is amazing the things God has done for me in my life, even just on a daily basis.
So many people are taught nearly from birth to blind their spiritual ears and eyes and blind their minds to these things.
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name them, anyone predating the theory of evolution doesn't count because they weren't able to judge between the two
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also, what is the difference between "gods science" and "mans science"
I know what "science" is, but i'm confused as to why you split them in two
my guess is that "gods science" is actually religion
I know what "science" is, but i'm confused as to why you split them in two
my guess is that "gods science" is actually religion
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*snort* I would think the reason society hasn't fallen apart is because the vast majority has been keeping it together. "A chosen few"...
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Well, not all Creationists are what I'd consider geniuses either:
From: http://informationcentre.tripod.com/evolve4.html
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From: http://www.faem.com/edward/evolutio.htm
Stunning grasp of evolutionary theory, no?
And my last example because this is like shooting pandas in a barrel:
Yes, of course, absolutely nothing distinguishes maniraptors from lizards so lets just go ahead and call them lizards. I mean, I realize that I've always been a dinosaur buff, but I could have pointed out problems with calling dinosaurs lizards when I was a very young child.
Yes indeedy, someone sure did their homework on dinosaurs before they made this rediculous page.
From: http://www.faem.com/evolve/fatalfly.htm
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Nope, not an opinion.
Lets play ball.
I would like to see some facts and evidence for creationism. A couple things.
Facts or evidence that disprove evolution, arent allowed because disproving evolution doesnt prove creationism.
"God did it" or "god said so" arent facts. Unless you talked to god and he explained this too you how can you assume what god ment? You could source the bible, but how do you know god said everything in the bible?
Facts need sources. The bible can only be used if you can prove the facts in the bible, without using god or the bible (kinda like you cant define by using that word in the definition).
Also, some observable and repeatable experiments and evidence would be nice too.
These are the basic criteria that Evolution is based on, so we should rate creationism science on the same scale.
Untill these facts can become available, Creationism will remain a belief and Evolution will remain a theory.
Lets play ball.
I would like to see some facts and evidence for creationism. A couple things.
Facts or evidence that disprove evolution, arent allowed because disproving evolution doesnt prove creationism.
"God did it" or "god said so" arent facts. Unless you talked to god and he explained this too you how can you assume what god ment? You could source the bible, but how do you know god said everything in the bible?
Facts need sources. The bible can only be used if you can prove the facts in the bible, without using god or the bible (kinda like you cant define by using that word in the definition).
Also, some observable and repeatable experiments and evidence would be nice too.
These are the basic criteria that Evolution is based on, so we should rate creationism science on the same scale.
Untill these facts can become available, Creationism will remain a belief and Evolution will remain a theory.
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I would like to know more about this "god's science." What is the methodology used when applying it? How does one define "god's science"? And what makes "god's science" science?
This seems like a convenient invention to avoid having to talk in terms that refer to the observable universe.
This seems like a convenient invention to avoid having to talk in terms that refer to the observable universe.
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