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Why prompt us to go out and burn or hang some?
nope just pointing out facts and history. God should not have written down that Christians should burn witches if he didn't want Christians to go out can actually do it.God's Church look bad?
If that's what you call explaining the paradigm shift of today compared to then. sure i guess? but Christians burning witches happened in THIS dispensation. Show me where god explains his errata.I don't 'set my religious book aside' --- I interpret It in light of dispensation theology.
that's a nice theology. Is it like being a Mormon with all the modern profits?In dispensation theology, God has a set goal He expects us to achieve (replenish the earth and take proper dominion over it), and gives us a set of standards we are to use to achieve that goal.
If we fail to work toward that goal and get to the point that we have no intention of doing so with the standards He has given us, then God steps in and punishes us with a fitting punishment, and then prescribes a new set of standards that we are to use to accomplish our goal.
Failure, of course, will precipitate another judgment.
Each dispensation, then, starts out with a new set of standards, and ends with divine judgment.
Why are you prompting us to repeat history?history has shown this to have already happened. Christians too the initiative and burned witches.
Please do tell me where God wrote down that Christians should burn witches.God should not have written down that Christians should burn witches if he didn't want Christians to go out can actually do it.
I have a better idea: you show me.but Christians burning witches happened in THIS dispensation. Show me where god explains his errata.
We are asking why you are not burning witches today, not telling you to do so. You answered that either the Holy Spirit was keeping them at bay, or that Satan gave up on making witches. I athen asked why did Satan give up on making witches and where was the Holy Spirit all this time before the Ressurection.Why are you prompting us to repeat history?
(You guys aren't going to answer this, are you? I've only asked this question how many times now?)
Exodus 22:18 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."Please do tell me where God wrote down that Christians should burn witches.
See above. The command seems pretty straight foward.Why is it you're wondering why we're not being obedient to some non-existent command?
You are the one who needs to "admit" there are no witches. Your Bible says there are (or were) witches, and you claim there used to be "real mccoys."Split Rock even admitted that there are no witches.
Are you saying he's wrong?
You guys insinuate that to be a true Christian and not a hypocrite, we should burn witches; despite the fact that the Bible never tells us to burn witches.We are asking why you are not burning witches today, not telling you to do so.
No, I did not. You telephoned that to mean Satan "gave up." I said the Holy Spirit keeps Satan in check.You answered that either the Holy Spirit was keeping them at bay, or that Satan gave up on making witches.
The Holy Spirit has always existed, but He didn't take the forefront until after the Ascension.I athen asked why did Satan give up on making witches and where was the Holy Spirit all this time before the Ressurection.
If there are witches today, they are exceptions to the way things worked in the Old Testament. They certainly don't have the power they once had, so they would be rendered harmless enough that we don't have to hunt them down.You are the one who needs to "admit" there are no witches. Your Bible says there are (or were) witches, and you claim there used to be "real mccoys."
Please do tell me where God wrote down that Christians should burn witches.
~Ahem~Exodus 22:18 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
You realize your brownie points just dropped, don't you?As much as I disagree with AV on nearly everything, he is correct here.
Because I agreed with you?You realize your brownie points just dropped, don't you?
~Ahem~
Excuse my interruption here, but.....
....that was not addressed to Christians.
AV has you here (sorry)
ETA- as a matter of fact the only time that witchcraft is mentioned in the 1611 KJV New Testament is in the book of Galatians, and there is no command (or even suggestion) to burn, hang, shoot, stab, stone or otherwise kill one practicing witchcraft.
Like AV has stated in the past, the "witch burnings" of times past by Christians was done in spite of the teachings of Jesus, not because of them.
As much as I disagree with AV on nearly everything, he is correct here.
This one →Because I agreed with you?
Or because I disagreed with Split?
That's why you need to learn dispensation theology.So, you see? To say a passage is being taken out of context is is not only obvious and redundant but meaningless, at this point.
I see where you are coming from in this case.I would agree with you, if it weren't for the fact that the same way of taking quotes out of their context is used to validate their views about things such as sexuality, marriage, the origin of the universe, or in extreme cases like AV, anything ranging from the existence of elements and space-time. So, you see? To say a passage is being taken out of context is is not only obvious and redundant but meaningless, at this point.
mehThis one →
Ahhh... an excellent example of a primitive mammal with reptilian characteristics. Further support for the theory that mammals evolved from reptiles. Thanks for that!
Exodus 22:18 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
See above. The command seems pretty straight foward.
Please explain this with objective empirical evidence.Actually it is an example of a modern alive today type of mammal with reptilian characteristis. It also supports the idea that God can create and do as He pleases.
Why should this be considered?It should be concidered there is still someone today that knows all the genetic sequences and is able to reproduce them at his will.
The scientific community does not "look down" upon any deity.Is it not true that the scientific communtity would look down upon anyone withholding information? Perhaps that is a basis why most of that community looks down upon God?
(bold emphasis mine)There is a difference between "not suffer a witch to live" and thou shalt judge a witch and then execute and kill the witch.
There is a difference between "to live" and 'to die' and 'to kill'. In more modern thought it is about "excommunication" or politically it is about being "exiled" apart from the community.
Please explain this with objective empirical evidence.
Why should this be considered?
The scientific community does not "look down" upon any deity.
The concept of deity just does not fall within objective empirical evidence.
If you think it does, then give me such evidence and I will consider it.
(bold emphasis mine)
That explains your "interpretation" that specific scripture.
'Nuff said.
That's the point I'm making with these guys.Maybe a person who has perfect interpretation of scriptures and a lifestyle that matches should be the first to pick up a stone and kill all the witches today, that is if the same someone interprets "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" means kill all the witches.
In fact, if you pin them down and get an honest answer from them, most (if not all) will probably admit that they don't even believe in witches.
It's PlatypusObjective is the platipus, here and now.
Yes, Scientific Theory, which is the best current model explaining what we observe.Theory is how it got here.
BullOnly someone billions of years old would be able to testify to the facts (fossil record) and affirm how these things developed. In other words they would not be speaking theory, they would be speaking facts.
Yes we will dieWould those facts disprove the theory of evolution or prove them? Evolutionists say yes and Creationists say no. It is a deadlock, after all Darwin died, so will you and I and continuing generations go through that one observable fact. You die so will I.
Actually, in the "Origins theology" forum, the ToE is quite contested.Interpretation... well if you ever visit the Christian specific forums you should begin to understand "evolution" is one of the least controversial areas under discussion. Just click on my name look up posts and you will see a lot of this going on ->
You keep stating "what is not being said" regarding the bible.But for sciencetists I believe and hope they are actually more perceptive in the area of what is being said compared to what is not being said within scriptures.
It means you will not allow one to live, or have life.Do you really believe that the scripture, Exodus 22:18 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." means you should kill witches?
Well in the "dispensation" of the Old Testament, the rules were much different, weren't they?Maybe a person who has perfect interpretation of scriptures and a lifestyle that matches should be the first to pick up a stone and kill all the witches today, that is if the same someone interprets "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" means kill all the witches.
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