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Pro-choice people are not real people as they dont have the ncessary awareness of reality, so they shouldnt be allowed to have opinions. How about that?
I am looking foward to doing so once you guys start addressing the points put to you instead of repeatinmg your person al mantras.Perhaps you would like to address the point that Lux et Lex has raised about the breath of life.
Lux et Lex,
Pro-choice people are not real people as they dont have the ncessary awareness of reality, so they shouldnt be allowed to have opinions.
How about that?
But thats not scripture is it, the thread is about providing scripture that supports abortion.Making no sense as per usual. Next.
I am looking foward to doing so once you guys start addressing the points put to you instead of repeatinmg your person al mantras.
No I did not ignore it and the thread is about scripture that supports abortion, the scriptures about the breath of life that God imparts aren’t about humans aborting the unborn. Furthermore there are two instances in the scriptures, one where God breaths life into creation and into dead bones, and the other where the Holy Spirit is breathed into people. So whilst God created all people and they have breath, they are all children of God, they aren’t sons of God through faith in Christ with the Holy Spirit.Perhaps you would like to address the point that Lux et Lex has raised about the breath of life. You keep ignoring that point.
Archivist,
No I did not ignore it and the thread is about scripture that supports abortion, the scriptures about the breath of life that God imparts arent about humans aborting the unborn. Furthermore there are two instances in the scriptures, one where God breaths life into creation and into dead bones, and the other where the Holy Spirit is breathed into people. So whilst God created all people and they have breath, they are all children of God, they arent sons of God through faith in Christ with the Holy Spirit.
If you wish to argue the breath of life it already flounders on the fact that there are various scriptures, not least Psalm 139, Job and Jeremiah 1 refer to God forming and knowing people in the womb. Even to use the breath of life argument you have to disregard these scriptures. It is making the assumption that humans can choose to destroy what God's word says God knows and is forming in the womb. Its playing god.
On the contrary, there is no scriptural basis for such an assumption. Thats why your argument is wholly wrong!"Knowing" someone in the womb can mean that God's plan for them is to be aborted.
For this yes of course..So you know what are and aren't God's plans?
Lux et Lex,
For this yes of course..
Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
So now you know.
So now having been shown the scripture you now also know what are God's plans for the unborn in the womb.So people dying of terrible diseases, being murdered, losing jobs, on welfare, and the destitute are not following the plans of God?
Yep, and that verse is an example of how we know God has plans for people, which is the question you asked. So are you clear on that now?But that verse was directed at Jeremiah.
no, why would you assume that?Or are you arguing that we are all prophets of nations?
I do get it and have to reject it as irrelevant on 3 counts.God's plan for a fetus could be termination. God's plan for a baby could be death at 1 month. God's plan for a man could be death at 100. I don't see where you don't get this.
Lux et Lex,
So now having been shown the scripture you now also know what are God's plans for the unborn in the womb.
Not at all. The scripture says God formed people such as Jeremiah in the womb, there is no premise to assume Jeremiah was not a person or that Jeremiah wasn’t a developing person in the womb.This argument, of course, rests on the premise that the developing organism in the womb is a person throughout the entire duration of the pregnancy.
false premise as above.Proclaiming God has plans to prosper people is no argument against abortion if what we're dealing with is not a person.
I dont need to, you haven’t given any scripture to support your assumption that the organism developing in the womb isnt a person.Even so, you didn't respond to the problem pointed out in you using the verse the way you have.
Surely that was God’s intent and is through Jesus Christ in eternal life?You seem to be supposing that God's intent is for everyone to have a perfectly prosperous, painless life, but you and I both know that's really not what people experience.
How? If God's word shows only instances where He has plans for people and a love to save them all, on what possible grounds?God's plan for a fetus could be termination.
All the scriptural evidence is God's plan to prosper.God's plan for a baby could be death at 1 month.
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