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Show me evidence for Noah's flood.

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What actual evidence has been presented so far? Mostly I get a lot of CLAIMS but no actual evidence. Joshua, from your opening post, I'm not really that sure you are au fait with the concept of evidence.

What I get from the opening paragraph is the following claims:

Noah was a real live historical person
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Which has no support/evidence

The date of Noah's flood was between the end of October and the beginning of November in 2370 BCE according to Bishop Ussher
Which has no support bar Bishop Ussher's counting of the in the genealogies Bible. Which there are no reasons to believe are accurate or reflective of reality or histroy.

the evidence from Google earth satellite photos indicated that the the area of Noah's flood is under the Persian Gulf
I'd dispute this. I'd say the evidence from Google earth only gives us a present day map of the Persian Gulf, and gives us almost no evidence of past flooding in the region bar short term surface erosion and flood debris. It tells us VERY LITTLE, if anything, about widescale flooding in the Persian Gulf area ~4400 years ago.

Lets think about what exactly was ON Noah's ARK.
This is not evidence and simply assumes its premise - you need to establish there WAS an ark, before you can start talking about what was inside it

IF you put the plant seeds on the ark the plant is no longer a wild plant is is now domesticated. Wild plants require the wind or natural elements to distribute their seeds. Cultivated plants requires man to be a part of the equation. Everything on Noah's Ark was domesticated nothing was wild.

Cultivation is not domestication, and this is NOT how domestication works - a wild plant seed harvested by a person and then just planted and grown is not domesticated. There will be no observable difference between the parent generation and the cultivated generation.

Domestication is a process that requires MULTIPLE generations, with humans interference artificially by selecting for desired traits. I'm a fourth generation stud ram breeder. I know this stuff.

We know Adam and Eve in the Bible that lived 6,000 years ago were Hebrew or Jewish or whatever the correct term is.

No supporting evidence for any of this.

Abraham's covenant with God is perpetual from age to age and from generation to generation.
No supporting evidence for this. Assumes its premises.

This is a big fight among the descendants of Abraham for the land and the mineral rights to the land and the air space above their land. This is a fight between the son of Abraham's wife Sarah and the son from Sarah's handmaiden the Egyptian Hagar.
The fact that semitic peoples fought among themselves and with other cutural/social groupings is not evidenece for any kind of Noachian flood.

Gentiles are adopted into the family of God (Abraham). We are not natural descendants of Abraham. We are wild branches grafted into a domesticated tree because the natural branches did not produce fruit and they were thrown into the fire.
The fact that gentiles are not semitic peoples is not evidenece for any kind of Noachian flood.
 
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The fact that gentiles are not semitic peoples is not evidenece for any kind of Noachian flood.
Yes, it is.
All the facts, each fact, everywhere, like pieces in a giant mosaic, all fit together
in perfect harmony.
 
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It would have been faster for you to run a google search then to ask me to do a google search for you. I am talking about the 6 extinctions. Also I was talking about the snowball earth. When the earth is covered with water that water is frozen. The main extinction we are talking about was when Pangaea was broken up and the ice age that took place after that.

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Very simple, you made a claim of "lots" of world wide FLOODS.

Evidence please.
 
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I have presented more then enough science given the media we are working with.
You just haven't because nearly everything can be presented, or information enabling another to get that evidence can be passed on. If you can't do either of these things then I'm sorry but you're just kidding yourself.
Of course I refuse to spoon feed you and that means you have to actually put a little bit of effort into knowing the truth. People have to discover the truth themselves and that means they have to want to know the truth. This is what free will is all about, making the right choices in life.
I've shown you why you're arguments don't work. Surely if your arguments were with foundation, then you can base reasoned arguments to us as to why my arguments are incorrect. I don't for a moment believe you when you spout nonsense about having to 'spoon feed' people the truth. If it were indeed the truth, then it'd speak for itself & wouldn't need you to justify it.
 
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You have an impressive mind....so did Einstein....wonder how he is doing at this moment....better a simple mind like me that has eyes to see.here’s a tidbit of “wisdom “ for you....God is not on trial here....YOU are

What can't he see? Please demonstrate for us.
 
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you're just kidding yourself.
YOU are guilty of the very thing you accuse others of. So be careful because you are just giving witness and testimony about yourself. What I am trying to do is show that the Bible is not accurate and not true. All the evidence shows that the Bible is 100% accurate and true. There is a good reason why that is, because God watches over His Word to Accomplish - Perform and do what He says He will do. So you can spend all of eternity trying to show that the Bible is not accurate and true - the result is you will fail.

You have made a choice to argue against God and against the Bible. You have made a choice to try to accomplish something that you have a 100% chance of failure. What you will be able to do is show when man's opinion or traditions do not line up with the word of God. You will not be able to prove God and the Bible to be wrong. IF you continue to try then you will continue to fail. In fact you are confronting an absolute so you will absolutely fail.

Romans 3:4 "Will their lack of faith nullify God’s faithfulness? 4 Absolutely not! Let God be true and every man a liar. As it is written: “So that You may be justified in Your words, and prevail in Your judgments.”"
 
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I've shown you why you're arguments don't work.
The only argument I have is that all true science can verify that the Bible is absolute truth. I am not trying to argue for my opinions. I am simply showing how true and accurate the Bible is.
 
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A good start would be, you supporting your claims with evidence.
My ONLY claim is that the Bible is absolute truth. We support this by trying to falsify the Bible. You have failed to show that the Bible is not 100% accurate and true. The truth does not need us to defend it. The truth can stand on it's own because God is there to verify and to defend the truth.

Philippians 4:8 "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

We are here to show what is true, honest, just, pure, lovely, of good report, virtuous, & praiseworthy.
 
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Because he needs to ignore the rest of the post.
I do not need to ignore anything. When you try to argue against God then you are doomed to failure. IF God is for us then WHO can be against us? The answer is NO ONE. You are either for God or against God, there is no middle ground and there is no fence sitting allowed.
 
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My ONLY claim is that the Bible is absolute truth. We support this by trying to falsify the Bible. You have failed to show that the Bible is not 100% accurate and true. The truth does not need us to defend it. The truth can stand on it's own because God is there to verify and to defend the truth.

Philippians 4:8 "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

We are here to show what is true, honest, just, pure, lovely, of good report, virtuous, & praiseworthy.

Demonstrate the bible is absolute truth then, stop with the games.
 
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I do not need to ignore anything. When you try to argue against God then you are doomed to failure. IF God is for us then WHO can be against us? The answer is NO ONE. You are either for God or against God, there is no middle ground and there is no fence sitting allowed.

What God?
 
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The only argument I have is that all true science can verify that the Bible is absolute truth. I am not trying to argue for my opinions. I am simply showing how true and accurate the Bible is.

And you have failed to produce any evidence what so ever, to support this argument.
 
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A good start would be, you supporting your claims with evidence.
So where is your evidence that the Bible is NOT 100% accurate and true. Every attempt in that regard is simply a straw-man that goes up in a puff of smoke.
 
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So where is your evidence that the Bible is NOT 100% accurate and true. Every attempt in that regard is simply a straw-man that goes up in a puff of smoke.

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. We call that; intellectual honesty. When you have to shift the burden of proof to others, you reveal that you have nothing.

Can you prove that I wasn't visited by aliens last night and those aliens demonstrated to me, that they created the universe and everything in it?
 
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