Should we bring up truths that arent completely unveiled such as the Godhead/Trinity?

[mva1985]

so then by your answer you are saying that God is not capable of communicating to us directly he has to use humans to communicate?

No where in my response did I say that He always has to use us, but He does use us.

God reveals Himself to us in many different ways, people, nature, circumstances, etc. His thoughts and ways are much higher then mine.

 

[sentipente]

so then by your answer you are saying that God is not capable of communicating to us directly he has to use humans to communicate?

But how is He able to use humans to communicate if He is not able to communicate with humans in the first place?

 

[sentipente]

God reveals Himself to us in many different ways, people, nature, circumstances, etc. His thoughts and ways are much higher then mine.

The problem arises when we try to attach some great significance to these occurrences. You reveal to the world something about your parents everytime you interact with the environment. Do you think it would make sense for someone to claim that your parents have chosen you to communicate them to the world?

 

[StormyOne]

No where in my response did I say that He always has to use us, but He does use us.

fair enough, so he is not obligated to use humans at all....

God reveals Himself to us in many different ways, people, nature, circumstances, etc. His thoughts and ways are much higher then mine.

this phrase might mean something to you, to me it seems to be godtalk, theobabble.... that is statements that seem to be religious but have no substance.... what really are you trying to say?

 

[mva1985]

fair enough, so he is not obligated to use humans at all....

this phrase might mean something to you, to me it seems to be godtalk, theobabble.... that is statements that seem to be religious but have no substance.... what really are you trying to say?

Stormy,

I would agree that God is not obligate to use us, but again He does.

Never heard the word theobabble before. But I do really think you know what I'm saying.

Let's say witnessing the birth of a child - which I have had the pleasure of twice. The first time was awesome, and spoke to me very clearly that there was a God. It is one of those events that I believe when people see it how can they say there is no God?

 

[Loveaboveall]

My point was that finite beings will never understand or grasp completely an infinite God, and that Jesus IS the truth. There is no truth apart from the One who IS the Truth.

If this is the case... Is there any reason to even discuss this topic or other topics that are not explicitly explained in the bible? Is there any point? I think that was the point of the thread...

 

[Loveaboveall]

The problem arises when we try to attach some great significance to these occurrences. You reveal to the world something about your parents everytime you interact with the environment. Do you think it would make sense for someone to claim that your parents have chosen you to communicate them to the world?

Could you explain this statement further? I am not quite clear of your intent and do not want to assume...

 

[sentipente]

Could you explain this statement further? I am not quite clear of your intent and do not want to assume...

That sentence has to be understood in the context of the sentence that comes before it. Here they are together.

You reveal to the world something about your parents everytime you interact with the environment. Do you think it would make sense for someone to claim that your parents have chosen you to communicate [reveal] them to the world?

 

[Loveaboveall]

So are you claiming that God did not choose us to reveal His love(character) to the world?

 

[reddogs]

So are you claiming that God did not choose us to reveal His love(character) to the world?

God reveals what is needed, if He really tried to explain to 'Jacobs ladder' man on how angels travel and get back and forth from heaven I think even the scientist would have a hard time grasping the totality of it........

 

[sentipente]

So are you claiming that God did not choose us to reveal His love(character) to the world?

His character is revealed in everyone. Man was made in the image of God.

 

[Loveaboveall]

His character is revealed in everyone. Man was made in the image of God.

So God has chosen everyone to reveal himself to... everyone?

 

[AndrewK788]

So God has chosen everyone to reveal himself to... everyone?

Basically, yes, though everyone does not listen and obey. Everyone in this world, God has a plan for which will glorify Him. Very few choose to take that path, however.

And to answer the question of why God needs us to communicate himself to others: He doesn't. Why in the world would an all-powerful God need something as insignificant as one of us to communicate anything? Again, He doesn't. Maybe everyone disagrees with me on this, and that's okay, but I don't believe it's because God is incapable of communicating directly to people or even that he doesn't want to, but it's more for the sake of those who allow God to communicate through them. It's like prayer. Why does God need prayer? It isn't God who needs it, it's the lowly humans who need it as a lifeline and connection to their Lord and Savior. Using humans to communicate Himself through is meant to be a blessing to the individual who allows it. It has nothing to do with what God can or cannot do.

 

[sentipente]

Well said, Andrew. Now, if only the older ones will allow themselves to catch up with your thinking.

 

[StormyOne]

Basically, yes, though everyone does not listen and obey. Everyone in this world, God has a plan for which will glorify Him. Very few choose to take that path, however.

And to answer the question of why God needs us to communicate himself to others: He doesn't. Why in the world would an all-powerful God need something as insignificant as one of us to communicate anything? Again, He doesn't. Maybe everyone disagrees with me on this, and that's okay, but I don't believe it's because God is incapable of communicating directly to people or even that he doesn't want to, but it's more for the sake of those who allow God to communicate through them. It's like prayer. Why does God need prayer? It isn't God who needs it, it's the lowly humans who need it as a lifeline and connection to their Lord and Savior. Using humans to communicate Himself through is meant to be a blessing to the individual who allows it. It has nothing to do with what God can or cannot do.

excellent points...

 

[LightWorker1967]

Basically, yes, though everyone does not listen and obey. Everyone in this world, God has a plan for which will glorify Him. Very few choose to take that path, however.

And to answer the question of why God needs us to communicate himself to others: He doesn't. Why in the world would an all-powerful God need something as insignificant as one of us to communicate anything? Again, He doesn't. Maybe everyone disagrees with me on this, and that's okay, but I don't believe it's because God is incapable of communicating directly to people or even that he doesn't want to, but it's more for the sake of those who allow God to communicate through them. It's like prayer. Why does God need prayer? It isn't God who needs it, it's the lowly humans who need it as a lifeline and connection to their Lord and Savior. Using humans to communicate Himself through is meant to be a blessing to the individual who allows it. It has nothing to do with what God can or cannot do.

Andrew – this depth of response at 19? Wow. Thank you.

 

[Bourbaki]

Should we bring up truths that arent completely unveiled such as the Godhead/Trinity?

The Godhead has been completely unveiled in http://www.everythingimportant.org/Godhead

 

[sentipente]

The Godhead has been completely unveiled in http://www.everythingimportant.org/Godhead

This is so funny it's not funny.

 

[StormyOne]

The Godhead has been completely unveiled in http://www.everythingimportant.org/Godhead

yet another shameless plug and an invitation to peruse the mind of Bourbaki...... sounds like fun huh....

 

[LightWorker1967]

God does use us as His instruments.

But it's easier when we are tuned.