Should the SDA Forum Be Split?

[TrustAndObey]

Sassy, I agree with you.

We all should want the freedom of not having to defend anymore. Both sides.

I don't see fighting for a unity that was never there to begin with.

 

[SassySDA]

You see what's transiring right now? Even in a thread trying to discuss how we can share this forum and NOT fight/argue all of the time, trouble has been caused and the arguing is starting.

I give up, I don't know why the rest of you don't as well.

 

[sentipente]

You know, believe it or not, I love to debate. I truly do. I was even on the debating team in high school. The problem here is, that I find that most people do not know HOW to debate properly. They've never been on an actual debating team, so most of them don't know the "rules of engagement". Therefore the alleged debate very quickly turns into nothing more than "I'm right, Your wrong". What each side can learn from the other is lost on someone just HAVING to be right. It becomes a street brawl, and that gets tiring real quick unless one is one of those types who LIVE to argue. I'm not one of those.

What prevents you from simply ignoring those types? Nothing compels you to read their posts. I really don't get it.

 

[TrustAndObey]

I'm not giving up because it COULD turn into something great.

Demeaning our reasoning or our interest in this topic isn't going to scare me away. In fact, it just makes me wonder even more why so many people want to hang out with people they obviously do not like.

There's disdain here that goes way beyond doctrine.

 

[sentipente]

You see what's transiring right now? Even in a thread trying to discuss how we can share this forum and NOT fight/argue all of the time, trouble has been caused and the arguing is starting.

How can you be satisfied exploring ways of denying Jesus the wish expressed in His prayer "that they may be one?" How?

 

[TrustAndObey]

If the Traditionals feel like punching bags, and the Progressives feel like punching bags...why isn't everyone voting for the same thing?

To me it just appears that some don't want their punching bags TAKEN AWAY.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Sassy, there's a real cool feature on CF that lets you skip over posts you KNOW you aren't going to like. Use it sista.

 

[sentipente]

There's disdain here that goes way beyond doctrine.

I'm willing to wager that you guys don't even know each other personally, so where does this disdain come from?

 

[honorthesabbath]

Night is already promising not to agree with Woob in any wiki discussions, and I'm sure Woob feels the same way about Night.

I'm voting for a split.

And he starting to 'nitpick' on me again. Even after he asked for a truce.--hhhmmm man o man

 

[sentipente]

Sassy, there's a real cool feature on CF that lets you skip over posts you KNOW you aren't going to like. Use it sista.

Now, here we have a rational approach.

 

[sentipente]

When problematic people are actually banned you will find that less rule violations will take place. We just need to raise the stakes higher than what they were while we were under the old rules.

I would just remind you of the law of unintended consequences.

 

[honorthesabbath]

I would personally thwack the first Traditional I saw going over there. There's no need in that and if anyone even THOUGHT about it, I'd try to talk them out of it.

We need to worry about ourselves, not others.

T&O- I recall sometime back when an SDA forum was under attack from the 'liberal's. A few of them did get banned because their words and demeanors where such that there was little doubt as to their spiritual condition.

But here is the neat part. There where some 'lurkers' on that site who had been watching the fray. They saw not only the doctrinal superiorty of the TSDA side, but also the characters of those TSDA's compared to the arrogant and mean spirited liberals.

Later on many of them told us that it was very apparent to them that the liberals agenda was not so much about truth and righteouness, but division and domination.

So know what? Don't worry about the world deciding who has the truth between us--they will see soon enough who is on the Lord's side. Like we are reminded in the Word-'if God be for us, who can be against us".

 

[sentipente]

I would remind all that the us vs. them mentality did not exist until sin entered the universe. Reveling in it does not advance the causes of the ruler of the Universe.

 

[TrustAndObey]

I am beginning to think that those who frequent this forum need to get a life. I can't believe that one's life is so bound up in an internet forum that an internet-divorce is sought.

You're already halfway to the total of posts I average in a YEAR, in just 12 days, Sentipente.

Glass houses.....

 

[sentipente]

You're already halfway to the total of posts I average in a YEAR, in just 12 days, Sentipente.

Glass houses.....

Broaden your thinking and you will see that your comparisons don't work. I am not so distraught over another's dissent that I must ask for an internet forum be divided as a consequence.

 

[honorthesabbath]

One other thing you should think about if there are two forums is who will have what names. For instance would the traditional side just call themselves Seventh-day Adventists and the Progressive have to use a modifier before they use SDA. Such an action would by default set the traditional side as SDA and the other as an offshoot.

Not that I would mind being an offshoot but I don't really want people to think that the traditional view is the only view in the SDA church.

Well dah!! The liberals ARE an off shoot of the body!!

 

[Mankin]

Well dah!! The liberals ARE an off shoot of the body!!

Give it a rest, honor. This isn't a debate.

 

[Mankin]

I voted yes, but I do think that we should keep a forum where both progressive and traditional Adventists can dicuss. Sorta a like an interdenominational thing for Adventists. It should have strict rules though.

 

[honorthesabbath]

Give it a rest, honor. This isn't a debate.

Mankin--may I ask that you mind our own business ?

I noticed in the thread that Night started against me last night that when it all over and apologises made--YOU tried to start in on me there and get the whole thing started again. You need to back away little man!

 

[Mankin]

Mankin--may I ask that you mind our own business ?

I noticed in the thread that Night started against me last night that when it all over and apologises made--YOU tried to start in on me there and get the whole thing started again. You need to back away little man!

Well EXCCUUUUEESSS me, I didn't realize that it was over and I was getting a little annoyed with all the childish arguing. Never mind, just forget it.