Should the Book of Enoch be in the Bible canon?

[PsaltiChrysostom]

The Book of Enoch?

I'm guessing you're not Orthodox because in the Orthodox church we do not read Revelation at all Liturgically. It's in our Bibles, but we never read it Liturgically. No, not Orthodox as to naming me...Happy for you, though : )

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Initially, during the first few centuries of the Christian era, like St. Jude,​

Jewish and Christian writers accepted Enoch's storyline as valid...​

Until about AD 400, the Book of Enoch was assumed as true.

ancients.thebookofenoch.info

This is from Fr. Steven De Young on Ancient Faith Blogs:

First, the teachings of 1 Enoch represent the earliest textual witness to principles of Christology, angelology, demonology, hamartiology, and eschatology which became doctrinally normative for the Christian church. The ubiquity, for example, of the understanding of demons as ‘fallen angels’ is a testament to this. While 1 Enoch does not function as Scripture, it is not read in the church liturgically, many of its central teachings passed through the New Testament textual witness and that of the early fathers and came to rest on the authority of the church rather than on the authority of 1 Enoch qua document.​

For Orthodox, "canonical books" are only those books read in services. A lot of other books, which not read in services, play important role in our theology. For example, the life of Mary and the icon of the Nativity is based not off of Matthew or Luke, but rather the Protoevangel of James.

The Book of Enoch - The Whole Counsel Blog

Within the varied literature of the Second Temple period, easily the most well-known subset of that literature is the Enochic literature. Likewise, within the Enochic literature, the Book of Enoch or 1 Enoch is by far the most well-known document. This is true at least in terms of awareness...

blogs.ancientfaith.com

 

[tonychanyt]

The Book of Enoch?

I'm guessing you're not Orthodox because in the Orthodox church we do not read Revelation at all Liturgically. It's in our Bibles, but we never read it Liturgically. No, not Orthodox as to naming me...Happy for you, though : )

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Thanks for the reference. This is how to do referencing in a scholarly manner:

1. Display and indent the quoted text.
2. Selectively bold the relevant keywords that are important to the point that you are making. No need to bold the entire sentence. Have a laser-sharp focus.
3. Be concise and precise to the point. No need to quote the whole chapter.

This is what I do for others who read my posts. It is a standard high-school scholarship. If you practice this, I guarantee you: it will improve your analytical thinking. In any case, no one is required to do it

 

[Semper-Fi]

Why was the book of Enoch quoted in Jude, yet not included in the official canon?

Jude did not quote the book of Enoch,
but rather attributes the quote to Enoch.

Do you know Enoch [son of Jared], is 6th from [the first Adam] ?

 

[tonychanyt]

Jude did not quote the book of Enoch,
but rather attributes the quote to Enoch.

What is the difference? Can you show the two examples?

 

[Semper-Fi]

What is the difference? Can you show the two examples?

This is a quote from Enochs book.
This is a quote from Enoch.

 

[tonychanyt]

This is a quote from Enochs book.
This is a quote from Enoch.

Sorry that I am slow. I don't see any quotation marks. I don't think we are communicating.

 

[Semper-Fi]

Sorry that I am slow. I don't see any quotation marks. I don't think we are communicating.

Are we not talking about Jude 1:14 quote still?
Jude 1 does not say anything about a book.

God flooded the earth because of man, not Angeles.
Enoch book 2 has all kinds of blasphemy in it also.

 

[tonychanyt]

Are we not talking about Jude 1:14 quote still?
Jude 1 does not say anything about a book.

God flooded the earth because of man, not Angeles.
Enoch book 2 has all kinds of blasphemy in it also.

By your logic, where did Jude attribute the quote to Enoch?

 

[Semper-Fi]

By your logic, where did Jude attribute the quote to Enoch?

Not from the book of Enoch. I Enoch is a compilation
of several separate works, most of which are apocalyptic.

The portrait of Enoch as visionary was influenced by the Babylonian
tradition of the 7th antediluvian king, Enmenduranna, who was linked
to the sun god and received divine revelations. The story of Enoch
reflects many such features of the Babylonian myth.

An Angel named Phanuel, who is set over the repentance
unto hope of those who inherit eternal life ?

That alone is blasphemy, and contradicts what the bible we have says.

 

[tonychanyt]

Not from the book of Enoch. I Enoch is a compilation
of several separate works, most of which are apocalyptic.

The portrait of Enoch as visionary was influenced by the Babylonian
tradition of the 7th antediluvian king, Enmenduranna, who was linked
to the sun god and received divine revelations. The story of Enoch
reflects many such features of the Babylonian myth.

An Angel named Phanuel, who is set over the repentance
unto hope of those who inherit eternal life ?

That alone is blasphemy, and contradicts what the bible we have says.

I see. Thanks