Should smoking cigars be a conviction

[act123]

How do you guys feels about christians and smoking cigars

 

[growingupinhim]

its one of the doubtful things...however for health not the best choice, also not the greatest witness either with a cigar in the mouth and bible in hand.

 

[Oblivious]

Yes, it should be a conviction because it smells absolutely horrible!

Seriously, smoking anything is obviously not good for you, but smoking is not straight up mentioned in the Bible as being a sin. Although there are "hints" such as the body being the Temple of God; and I don't think smoking is the best thing for it! Just my $.02

 

[lands21]

I will have a cigar now and then (maybe 2 a year) and I have no issues with it. It is bad for you, but so is to much fast food and ice cream. Anyways, having one once and a while it not an issue, being addicted to it... another story.

 

[Crain]

Bad to your health
Tried it...
Hate it...
Wonder how some people smoke it...

Conviction:
How can you smoke something knowing that it'll kill you in the future?

 

[Antari]

Smoking is killing my Dad, and did kill his mother and father. It hurts people surrounding you, you, your furniture, your teeth, and just plain smells bad. Those companies are no more than murderers, imo. They should all be hung.

 

[Sir Donkey of Punchington]

The companies should be hung as murderers if and only if they force the consumer to partake. I'm willing to bet that your dad wasn't forced to start smoking at gunpoint.

What ever happened to personal responsibility? I *like* being able to choose to partake in activities that could quite conceivably kill me, simply because it lets me exercise that little thing called "judgement" that society has tried to make legislatively redundant.

/non-smoker, because I have a brain.

 

[lands21]

Smoking is killing my Dad, and did kill his mother and father. It hurts people surrounding you, you, your furniture, your teeth, and just plain smells bad. Those companies are no more than murderers, imo. They should all be hung.

Be careful with your words......

 

[Oblivious]

The companies should be hung as murderers if and only if they force the consumer to partake. I'm willing to bet that your dad wasn't forced to start smoking at gunpoint.

What ever happened to personal responsibility? I *like* being able to choose to partake in activities that could quite conceivably kill me, simply because it lets me exercise that little thing called "judgement" that society has tried to make legislatively redundant.

/non-smoker, because I have a brain.

Great comments! I totally agree! We need to take responsibility, not the companies.

 

[Sir Donkey of Punchington]

The problem exists in society. We scramble around looking for somewhere to point the finger, and there are no checks on that to point the finger where it belongs-- squarely at you, in most cases. "The death of personal responsibility" would make a doozy of a thesis topic.

 

[Sir Donkey of Punchington]

More often than not, it's not the smoking itself that's disgusting as much as it is the habit. Someone who has a NEED to smoke to maintain their attitude/stability is a sorry sight indeed. Someone who can smoke a cigar, cigarette, joint, or bong once, then not touch it again for six months is certainly far more tolerable than someone who LIVES on the stuff.

Your Mileage May Vary.

 

[jepvc4]

For the record, smoking cigars and smoking cigarettes are two different ballgames. To start, cigarettes are inhaled. Proper cigar smoking is holding the smoke in your mouth for a brief moment to taste it's flavor. The processing is also different. Whereas cigarettes contain far more chemicals, cigars don't go through such a chemical processing. Cigars are far healthier than cigarettes. You can check some info on cigar smoking here - http://www.cigargroup.com/faq/health/

The info there is by a doctor, who concludes that moderate, noninhaled cigar smoke poses no significant health threat.

As far as smoking is concerned, I don't think it's a good habit to have, and is a definate health concern. Cigar smoking, which I do enjoy mind you, is fine. It has helped me break down barriers in talking with people who smoke (regular cigarettes though) and is a way of establishing rapport. I don't do it every single day, but I do it more than twice a year. Now, I will hide behind a big shield before any "Thou shalt not smoke" folk jump on my case.

 

[Tuffguy]

HAHAHAHA

You people are so darn tough at talking against smoking. Did you ever think that it just needs to be moderated like anything else thats bad for you? I guess everyone on this board that berates smoking works out 4 times a week, runs, takes vitamins and gets 8 hrs of sleep per night.
Wether you don't like the smell or people that smoke has nothing to do with how bad it is for you.
Crawl out of your little shells and develop some reasoning ability rather then hoping on a pseudo moral high ground.

 

[Antari]

The companies should be hung as murderers if and only if they force the consumer to partake. I'm willing to bet that your dad wasn't forced to start smoking at gunpoint.

What ever happened to personal responsibility? I *like* being able to choose to partake in activities that could quite conceivably kill me, simply because it lets me exercise that little thing called "judgement" that society has tried to make legislatively redundant.

/non-smoker, because I have a brain.

My Dad took up smoking when he was young, about 36 years ago, and he was brain-washed into it. Sure, nowadays anyone who smokes does so of their own stupidity, but they weren't as aware of the side-effects of smoking back then, more like they suspected them.

And anyway, by your logic, I should be able to sell marijuana, just as long as I don't force it one people. See, doesn't work.

 

[Oblivious]

HAHAHAHA

You people are so darn tough at talking against smoking. Did you ever think that it just needs to be moderated like anything else thats bad for you? I guess everyone on this board that berates smoking works out 4 times a week, runs, takes vitamins and gets 8 hrs of sleep per night.
Wether you don't like the smell or people that smoke has nothing to do with how bad it is for you.
Crawl out of your little shells and develop some reasoning ability rather then hoping on a pseudo moral high ground.

I think all the comments made here were good with the exception of the Tobacco companies being called murders. So what's with the attitude?

Answer me this - name 1 good thing that comes from smoking. I personally don't know anyone who smokes who doesn't want to quit.

And by the way, I work out 5 nights a week, take vitamins, and get about 8 hours of sleep per night. None of us is perfect healthwise, but I'm not going to do something that has been proven time and time again to be bad for your health and in many cases deadly. Perhaps if you lost a loved one to smoking you'd better understand...

 

[Antari]

I think all the comments made here were good with the exception of the Tobacco companies being called murders. So what's with the attitude?

Answer me this - name 1 good thing that comes from smoking. I personally don't know anyone who smokes who doesn't want to quit.

And by the way, I work out 5 nights a week, take vitamins, and get about 8 hours of sleep per night. None of us is perfect healthwise, but I'm not going to do something that has been proven time and time again to be bad for your health and in many cases deadly. Perhaps if you lost a loved one to smoking you'd better understand...

And how are tehy not murderers? What if I made a product, later found out it caused all sorts of health problems, yet continued to sell it regardless? Just because the customer buys the suicide pill from you doesn't mean you aren't responsible for his/her death. They are murderers, they kill people for profit, period.

 

[hat lady]

If your a Christian, then the Bible says to keep your temple (holy). Cigar, cigarettes, too much fat, sugar, drugs breaks down the body. Keep your temple in good shape, eat moderately, don't take drugs, alcohol, or drugs.

 

[Oblivious]

And how are tehy not murderers? What if I made a product, later found out it caused all sorts of health problems, yet continued to sell it regardless? Just because the customer buys the suicide pill from you doesn't mean you aren't responsible for his/her death. They are murderers, they kill people for profit, period.

You and I as well as pretty much everyone else on the planet now knows the effects of smoking. I'm sorry, the company's aren't responsible if people are still buying the product. The people who smoke them are killing themselves, not the companies murdering them. I'm not keen on the logic of blaming others for our actions. I'm sorry, that's the biggest, spineless cop out there is IMO.

 

[Tuffguy]

I think all the comments made here were good with the exception of the Tobacco companies being called murders. So what's with the attitude?

Answer me this - name 1 good thing that comes from smoking. I personally don't know anyone who smokes who doesn't want to quit.

And by the way, I work out 5 nights a week, take vitamins, and get about 8 hours of sleep per night. None of us is perfect healthwise, but I'm not going to do something that has been proven time and time again to be bad for your health and in many cases deadly. Perhaps if you lost a loved one to smoking you'd better understand...

My grandfather died from smoking. It was his choice to suck down smoke every day of his life from the time he was 15 till 2-5 yrs before he passed away. He died a long and painful death that i remember very well since i was in my teens. Cancer started in his lungs, hampered his breathing greatly. About 3 yrs later he developed a bad brain tumor and then went on kemo and all things fell apart. It was horrible. He was so much fun to be around i can't even explain. He was very close to me and looked very much like me.

This has not hampered me from making an educated decison on smoking. It is just like anything else that is bad for you. If once in a while you have a smoke or cigar, who cares? You will not die from it unless you're standing next to a propane tank. If you smoke 2 packs a day for 25 yrs there is a good chance you'll die. Just like if you over endulge in anything you may die from it.
Why don't we talk about how many people are dying from being obese, or bad driving? Smoking is just an easier target to point at someone and go "AAA HAAA,,, they are killing themselves!!!" Its not PC to point at a fat guy with a big mac and even though its exactly the same thing.

 

[InnerPhyre]

In moderation, there is absolutely nothing wrong with smoking cigars.