yeshuaslavejeff
simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
What's amazing about that ?
It is out of reach for most of us.(common people)
(YHWH provides other though, very well too).
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What's amazing about that ?Their meat prices are amazing. Boneless ribeye at 8.99.
Should oppressed groups just "get over it" meaning oppression?
You mean like the oppressed people of Haiti who have been crying out for justice, after being silenced for so long?
Should the people of Haiti just "get over it"?
With all of the money being sent by average citizens to rebuild Haiti, it should have been accomplished. I believe that Haiti has been long oppressed because it is one of several nations and entities (especially because they are black) that kicked French booty, including Mexico. Correct me if I am wrong. Anyways, the money goes to the Red Cross, which is corrupt into itself. Money sent to the Red Cross should have gone directly to not only Haiti, but to parts of the Southern US, namely because of Hurricane Katrina.
No, the Haitians should not get over it as it was once was a wealthier nation that have all but have most of their power, money, and autonomy all but taken and destroyed by US policy and French revenge. It doesn't hurt that much that has happened with Haiti is also quite recent, but it doesn't matter; there is no way anyone should just get over what happened to anyone, whether they are African, American, Jewish, Irish (I read how badly the English treated and viewed them), or An Australian Aborigine. That was my point all along. As a black American, I am not sure if reparations in the form of financial compensation on a mass scale to us will benefit us as much as it would benefit say, the Haitians. Correct me if I am wrong as I am no historian.
We will have to connect some other place then.With all of the money being sent by average citizens to rebuild Haiti, it should have been accomplished. I believe that Haiti has been long oppressed because it is one of several nations and entities (especially because they are black) that kicked French booty, including Mexico. Correct me if I am wrong.
Again, but perhaps a little.As a black American, I am not sure if reparations in the form of financial compensation on a mass scale to us will benefit us as much as it would benefit say, the Haitians. Correct me if I am wrong as I am no historian.
Or those with a doctrine that removes faith from reality - like the "name it and claim it" group.The only ways I can fathom people actually being proponents of the OP is
1. Through ignorance - literally INGORING what happens in the world around them
2. Through lack of knowledge of history
3. Throughout apathy
4. As troll trainees
5. Through other personality issues (mean, racist learned behavior)
6. Via schadenfreude
Or those with a doctrine that removes faith from reality - like the "name it and claim it" group.
I cannot recall how many times I have been told to "Get over it and stop living in the past" by non-Native Americans whenever I talk about the history of Native Americans in this country. They tell me to "Get over it and stop living in the past" while they insist that we "Never forget 9-11" or tell us to "Remember Pearl Harbor" or the Southerners who insist on memorializing the South during the Civil War, even though the South was defeated and humiliated or the memorializing and commemorating of any other tragedy or triumph in American history. The double standard and the hypocrisy of it all is so astounding, it is laughable. And they have the nerve to tell me to stop living in the past.
If I were to say that I have totally forgotten Pearl Harbor and do not expect anything from the current Japanese people because not only did they have no part in it, but also that their ancestors, that had a part in it, were simply acting in what they saw as the best interest of their people. And if I said we should not hold grudges against Muslims who had no part in 9/11 and forgive any of those that did and wished to be forgiven and we only should remember 9/11 in order to guard against future such events. And if I were to say that all the bad things that happened to my own ancestors, including all the abuses of the English, Germans and Russians toward my Irish and Polish ancestors, ought to be left in the past as no one here and now was responsible for them , could I then have permission to say it would be better for you to get over things that happened that no one now is responsible for and that you yourself did not experience, without being called a hypocrite for saying that?
In my opinion, yeah, get over it if it didn't affect you personally.
French people got over Nazi Germany.
That isn't to say there are no current issues caused by past events, but don't take it so personally.
eg: People in East Asian need to get over disliking Japan because of what old or dead people did. It's pathetic.
This. But there are similar things I just did not get until I heard personal stories. I knew about the depression and I knew it was even worse in Europe. I knew about the hyper-inflation in Germany. But it finally came into focus when I heard about a top rate professional whose lump sum pension check (e.g. his entire pension for his entire working life) came a day later than expected in the mail. Instead of the bottle of wine and quart of strawberries he planned to buy it only covered the wine.
I think your point is similar and I'm going to try to personalize it. Near me is an Armenian market. Their meat prices are amazing. Boneless ribeye at 8.99. I go there a lot. Often enough that the butcher has been known to ask if I'm buying my usual order. A couple of years ago I noticed signs saying they would be closed for the annual remembrance of the Armenian Holocaust. BUT aside from that I have never heard it mentioned. Not once in shopping there for over a decade. I would never tell them to 'just get over it' because as I see it they have, it does not control or even have much influence over their day to day life. But neither have they or should they (in my opinion) forget.
Yeah; I have heard that from some of them.Of course some of these preach that both Jesus and Paul both lacked faith that they have.
Well, thank you for your opinion. However, I am less inclined to take the advice from a stranger on the internet. My first inclination was to tell you I would give your advice all the consideration I think it deserves, but that would be rude.
I don't hate Japan. But when you actually talk to someone from China or South Korea you better be careful. Else here is what they will tell you.
Japan is still denying that they ever did anything bad to China and South Korea. They never have comfort women, never beheaded civilians for fun, etc. In fact it was a "peaceful" occupation and the people in China and South Korea WELCOMED the Japanese invaders. What a bunch of bull c***!
Now China is stronger than Japan in every way, and Japan is hiding behind big and tall USA and barking falsehood like a scared puppy. And USA is letting Japan get away with their all their lies and propaganda.
So TODAY Japan is still denying history. They teach their school kids all the wrong and false information. When someone come into your country and kills millions then say they never did anything, how would you feel?
Look at the atomic bomb memorial in Hiroshima today. Japan claims that they are in fact victims in WW2. They teach falsehood even against the USA side of things.
China hates Japan. South Korea hates Japan. Philippine hates Japan. Get over it.
But, it is an implication perhaps your answer did not consider. How can you get over oppression that started in the past, but continues in the future ? In that case, it affects generations, not just the people who were directly affected.
Then, the insensitivity needed to conclude people just "get over it" comes from a well of ignorance and/or understanding of what "it" is in the first place.
I know an elderly French woman who has not by any means gotten over Nazi Germany. Her sister and mother were raped to death by Nazi soldiers.
Oh, but you did say "...if it didn't affect you personally."
And that is the point. That old woman is still alive--many are still alive--who were directly affected personally by Nazi Germany. When they and their children (because they children are affected by the experiences of the parents) are all safely dead, you can talk about "getting over" Nazi Germany.
Slavery itself is not a real issue in America. Yes, there are some folk calling for reparations for slavery, but only because they're conflating the Jim Crow era with slavery.
And there are those of us--me, for instance--who very well remember the Jim Crow era. And there are people alive today who very much want to revive the Jim Crow era. I'm not "getting over it" until those Jim Crow nostalgists are dead.
Does it happen currently?
But it works if you have enough faith!
How much faith? Enough that it works.
Was that "Notebooks of Lazarus Long" or a different work?
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