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So you are perfect in all your actions?Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect. I am in the world and not of this world!
Are you referring to this......
Luk 22:37 for I say to you, that yet this that hath been written it behoveth to be fulfilled in me: And with lawless ones he was reckoned, for also the things concerning me have an end.'
That scripture, "numbered among the transgressors" is talking about him being crucified with the criminals [lawless ones] at the cross.
From you, I'm not concerned of accusations unfounded. You have yet to deal with Scripture in context in any meaningful way
So you are perfect in all your actions?
The scripture you quoted raised the bar. For anyone to make it to heaven on their own ability requires perfection. No one fits that mold. Not you. Not me. Not anyone.
This is an interesting verse on the subject:
Romans 13:4
For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
Rulers bear swords? hmmmm
It had nothing to do with the apostles having swords, unless you are saying the apostles were lawless and we know that is not true.Not only at the time of crucifixion, but also during being caught betrayed.
As Abraham was,Christians are "pilgrims and sojourners," not natives.
The saying here does not equate to "it's a sin to be a soldier or use a weapon". The issue here requires context. Jesus' is not creating a nation of war. His kingdom is not of this world. The context doesn't answer any question posed about weapons. That's not what the passage is about. It's fulfillment of Scripture.Here is another:
"Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword." Matthew 26:52
The saying here does not equate to "it's a sin to be a soldier or use a weapon". The issue here requires context. Jesus' is not creating a nation of war. His kingdom is not of this world. The context doesn't answer any question posed about weapons. That's not what the passage is about. It's fulfillment of Scripture.
It had nothing to do with the apostles having swords, unless you are saying the apostles were lawless and we know that is not true.
Luke 22
36 “But now,” he said, “take your money and a traveler’s bag. And if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one! 37 For the time has come for this prophecy about me to be fulfilled: ‘He was counted among the rebels.’ Yes, everything written about me by the prophets will come true.”
38 “Look, Lord,” they replied, “we have two swords among us.”
“That’s enough,” he said.
He told them to buy swords because he was leaving them, Jesus had protected them when He was with them but now they were going out into the world and there would be times when they needed to protect them selves.
is my logic wrong when the soldiers ask what they should do and Jesus said don't take advantage of the people and be happy with their pay. Why did he not tell them to leave the military if it was wrong? they asked?In that case they needed 11 swords for each one of them. However, Peter had told Him that they had no place to go and He had words of eternal life. And they had followed by giving up all. So your logic is wrong.
is my logic wrong when the soldiers ask what they should do and Jesus said don't take advantage of the people and be happy with their pay. Why did he not tell them to leave the military if it was wrong? they asked?
No two was enough they regrouped together after they were scattered.
That wasn't Jesus who said that, it was John the Baptist. However, "it's all scripture." But remember that "taking advantage of the people" was their job and extorting money was part of their pay--that's how soldiers operated in that day. John was clearly telling them that they could no longer continue doing what soldiers do.
So the next time they were given orders to go out and bust heads, they would have to make a hard decision. What do you think Cornelius was going to have to do the next time he was ordered to kill Jews?
Also another question Israel was taken by force the land it is on, king David carried a weapon and used it. If we are not to defend our selves why did they? God does not change.
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