Should all Humans get Unremovable Brain Implant Microchips at Birth?

[Radrook]

Not just irremovable but tamper-proof by making sure that any attempted removal would prove fatal. That would provide law enforcement agencies with the ability to easily locate any felon for apprehension purposes. In short, unfindable or difficult to locate culprits, such as Bin Laden, would be a thing of the past.

BTW

This question is intended as a sociological one in relation to the control of crime and not a religious one involving the Mark of the Wild Beast. If indeed I believed that there was some connection would never even consider it as an option. So please spare me the vehement finger-pointing judgmental damnation to the everlasting fires of hell vehement attitude.

 

[Adstar]

Not just irremovable but tamper-proof by making sure that any attempted removal would prove fatal. That would provide law enforcement agencies with the ability to easily locate any felon for apprehension purposes. In short, unfindable or difficult to locate culprits, such as Bin Laden, would be a thing of the past.

No.. A total surveillance police state is not the kind of place anyone wants to live... Now if God was the leader and His Angels where the police then it would;d work out fine.. But with human leadership and faulty people as police,,, Well we would soon be under the worst kind of tyranny imaginable..

 

[miamited]

Not just irremovable but tamper-proof by making sure that any attempted removal would prove fatal. That would provide law enforcement agencies with the ability to easily locate any felon for apprehension purposes. In short, unfindable or difficult to locate culprits, such as Bin Laden, would be a thing of the past.

Hi radrook,

My vote is no. Whether or not we could have caught Bin Laden easier or not would depend on whether it was practiced worldwide or just in select countries.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[Radrook]

No.. A total surveillance police state is not the kind of place anyone wants to live... Now if God was the leader and His Angels where the police then it would;d work out fine.. But with human leadership and faulty people as police,,, Well we would soon be under the worst kind of tyranny imaginable..

Then maybe the ones fitted with those kinds of chips should be convicted felons in order to reduce recidivism and if it does occur then to quickly apprehend them.

 

[Adstar]

So then we have the problem of what level of crime would cause one to have this tag in them for the rest of their lives? Because having this tag would be a life sentance.. If you got caught speeding would you get the chip along with the speeding ticket...

 

[Martyr's Crown]

I'd say that would be a very bad idea. It would also mean they'd no longer have much own rights for privacy, they'd be watched over and be able to locate anywhere they'd go 24/7. Not that we may not be experiencing this to some degree already, but nowadays one can have some sense of privacy. If this type of system happens which you mention of, there will be no privacy at all.

Sadly, there are people already having thoughts of willingness towards such a system like this. They are willing to sacrifice their own privacy just to feel more safe and protected, not knowing nor seeing the bigger picture of having such a system happening in this world.

 

[Radrook]

Hi radrook,

My vote is no. Whether or not we could have caught Bin Laden easier or not would depend on whether it was practiced worldwide or just in select countries.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

True, it would require a global cooperation effort under perhaps a world government. So if it does ever occur I guess it would be piece meal. In any case, a criminal from the nation that has deployed the chips can't escape detection so crossing border isn't going to help him get away from the home government.

BTW
Please note that there are many serial killer crimes that have as yet not been solved and the culprits remain unknown because they have very cunningly evaded detection.

 

[Radrook]

So then we have the problem of what level of crime would cause one to have this tag in them for the rest of their lives? Because having this tag would be a life sentance.. If you got caught speeding would you get the chip along with the speeding ticket...

It could be restricted to such crimes as murder and rape and severe physical child abuse..

 

[Adstar]

Why not just sentence all Murderers Rapists and convicted Pedophiles to life in prison N.T.B.R ... Never To Be Released ?? Save all that expense of chipping and the infrastructure needed to run the system..

 

[-Hannah-]

I would die fighting against that. Who trusts the government that much?

 

[Radrook]

I would die fighting against that. Who trusts the government that much?

Fighting the government when it announces it would probably increase the chances of being placed on the list of first ones scheduled to be micro chipped.

 

[Radrook]

Why not just sentence all Murderers Rapists and convicted Pedophiles to life in prison N.T.B.R ... Never To Be Released ?? Save all that expense of chipping and the infrastructure needed to run the system..

Some things are initially not cost effective until they get firmly established. So certain sacrifices have to be made for the sake of a safer society.

 

[Radrook]

Clarification:

I am not suggesting this as a permanent fixture since the Good Lord will eventually intervene and un-microchip humanity. It is just a temporary stop-gap measure.

 

[miamited]

BTW
Please note that there are many serial killer crimes that have as yet not been solved and the culprits remain unknown because they have very cunningly evaded detection.

Hi radrook,

Yes, I understand that. But they won't escape justice.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[Martyr's Crown]

Some things are initially not cost effective until they get firmly established. So certain sacrifices have to be made for the sake of a safer society.

Even sacrificing one's possibility of staying saved and away from the grace of God by taking such a microchip too?

There will never be a fully safe society whilst being here on earth, only when being saved through Christ and when living with Him in heaven will one experience full safety and peace.

 

[-Hannah-]

Fighting the government when it announces it would probably increase the chances of being placed on the list of first ones scheduled to be micro chipped.

That's how it starts: finding the common ground, everyone is against murder. Then it forms the common ground, according to its conveniences.
Plus, you mention Bin Laden. Who created Al-Qaeda? Who can you trust to put a chip inside your brain to avoid Bin Ladens?

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Not just irremovable but tamper-proof by making sure that any attempted removal would prove fatal. That would provide law enforcement agencies with the ability to easily locate any felon for apprehension purposes. In short, unfindable or difficult to locate culprits, such as Bin Laden, would be a thing of the past.

I am not of the group that feels microchips are the "Mark of the Beast". But I also do not think society is ready for microchips nor should a human be forced to mutilate their body in such a way unwillingly.

We all know governments to be less than noble, to do such a thing would give an ungodly amount of power to people that have already proven to be less than capable of governing themselves and others, let alone have power over a human being.

 

[Adstar]

Some things are initially not cost effective until they get firmly established. So certain sacrifices have to be made for the sake of a safer society.

I would never sacrifice freedom and privacy for the delusion of security... I would never trust human government to run such a system... If people believe that Government is good and can be trusted then they are sadly mistaken..

 

[Radrook]

Hi radrook,

Yes, I understand that. But they won't escape justice.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

Ultimately at the hands of God no they will not escape whatever judgment he deems applicable.

Ecclesiastes 12:14 ►
New International Version
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.

But making the Earth safer by making such sickoes less likely to escape detection isn't a sin. In fact, it might very rightfully be considered a duty or as n expression of love for our neighbor via showing concern for his welfare..

Mark 12:31 ►
New International Version
The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."

 

[Martyr's Crown]

But making the Earth safer by making such sickoes less likely to escape detection isn't a sin. In fact, it might very rightfully be considered a duty or as n expression of love for our neighbor via showing concern for his welfare..

What if the criminal wishes to change? You have those who finds salvation and become devote Christians. If they'd have a michrochip in them for life they will never truly be free as a humanbeing, and most likely never will feel as anyone nor the government can trust them enough to manage building up a new life.

Even criminals to should have the right to getting saved, they are no less suitable for this as everyone else.