Shivalry

[Nymphalidae]

hey! i like my men the same way! Except i do like them to be a wee bit athletic but not obsessed with their bodies and looks

That's true, they should be cute. But I don't like men with lots of muscles; it creeps me out

 

[meebs]

That's true, they should be cute. But I don't like men with lots of muscles; it creeps me out

too true!

my ex wanted a six pack - of the really muscly kind. I said all you need to be is healthy! (he was overweight at the time).

not that if i do love them enough i will accept that, but i still tell them i love them no matter what!

 

[skinner]

Of course feminists and other women alike want to be treated with respect. What world do you live in?
I hope you're being sarcastic. Being equal meant not getting special treatment. You're talking as if it would be strange for a white man to protest against apartheid. A white man, though he might be "lowered" by apartheid coming to an end, might desire justice and the equality of the races.
Geez.

What? This has nothing to do with racism. I think the idea of equality between the sexes is silly. They both have their merits, that does not make them equal-it makes them each uniquie in their own way. We can't bear children. Women (in general) aren't built to handle certain types of hard labor. This comes from personaly observation BTW, it's not a put-down.
What this has to do with aprartheid is beyond me.
Women want to be beautiful. Men want to be strong. I realize these are cliches, but still are generally true. And one is not better than the other, just very different.

The thing I hate about you saying this, is that you sound as if it's a guy's duty to do this. It's as if women are so weak and delicate and can't fight their "dragons" perfectly fine on their own.
Or you mean to say that men don't need help from women to fight their "dragons", but women do because women are weak and emotional.

Sigh. It is our duty! And it's her duty to respect us for trying. And to rescue us from our own doubts. It's my duty to tell her she looks good and it's her duty to tell me I'm doing a good job on the plumbing and carpenty (even tho' I know she's lying)
That's how a marriage works, by people buiding each other up. I don't know any women who don't truly want a man who would fight for them. And I don't know any men who don't want a women who respects them.
Are women more emotional? In general, yeah. Is that a bad thing? Nope, because they need those emotions. Hard, cold women are totally unappealing.
It may make them efficent but it won't make them happy.

Are men physically stronger? In general, yeah. Sorry, but overly emotional men are a little irritating. And I happen to thing women don't care too much for them. Just my observations.

 

[Nymphalidae]

What? This has nothing to do with racism. I think the idea of equality between the sexes is silly. They both have their merits, that does not make them equal-it makes them each uniquie in their own way. We can't bear children. Women (in general) aren't built to handle certain types of hard labor. This comes from personaly observation BTW, it's not a put-down.
What this has to do with aprartheid is beyond me.
Women want to be beautiful. Men want to be strong. I realize these are cliches, but still are generally true. And one is not better than the other, just very different.



Sigh. It is our duty! And it's her duty to respect us for trying. And to rescue us from our own doubts. It's my duty to tell her she looks good and it's her duty to tell me I'm doing a good job on the plumbing and carpenty (even tho' I know she's lying)
That's how a marriage works, by people buiding each other up. I don't know any women who don't truly want a man who would fight for them. And I don't know any men who don't want a women who respects them.
Are women more emotional? In general, yeah. Is that a bad thing? Nope, because they need those emotions. Hard, cold women are totally unappealing.
It may make them efficent but it won't make them happy.

Are men physically stronger? In general, yeah. Sorry, but overly emotional men are a little irritating. And I happen to thing women don't care too much for them. Just my observations.

So basically, I'm a freak of nature.

 

[skinner]

So basically, I'm a freak of nature.

For what reason?

 

[Nymphalidae]

For what reason?

Because I don't conform to your idea of how a woman ought to be.

 

[AdamAnderson21]

Chivalry is more of a fantasy then an actual reality. Even when it was still alive.

 

[Mereni]

I love men. Any guy who opens the door for me gets a great big thank you. The geekier, the better. Computer literate, bookworms, with a head for science always got it going on in the places that count.

 

[fanatiquefou]

So basically, I'm a freak of nature.

Me too. Really, I think anytime we start to try to classify people based solely on their gender, we run into trouble. We do much better to simply toss aside generalizations and look at each person as an individual. For my part, I don't much like overly emotional men OR women. They both drive me crazy. I don't know where you get off saying that 'hard, cold' women will be unhappy. Women aren't really ruled by their emotions any more than men are. Sometimes they're expressed in different ways, that's all.

 

[meebs]

Me too. Really, I think anytime we start to try to classify people based solely on their gender, we run into trouble. We do much better to simply toss aside generalizations and look at each person as an individual. For my part, I don't much like overly emotional men OR women. They both drive me crazy. I don't know where you get off saying that 'hard, cold' women will be unhappy. Women aren't really ruled by their emotions any more than men are. Sometimes they're expressed in different ways, that's all.

REPS!!!!

 

[rachelness]

So basically, I'm a freak of nature.

As am I. It feels so good, though.

 

[skinner]

Women and men are different only in anatomical terms.

See, this is the part of the feminist's creed that I disagree with. I don't disagree with women doing a "man's job" or any such thing.
But to say that men are woman are the same, except for physically, is insane.
I've worked in factory jobs with lots of women (and men) and they each have their strengths and weaknesses. But, they are as different as night and day.

Why are we called sexist pointing that out?

 

[rachelness]

See, this is the part of the feminist's creed that I disagree with. I don't disagree with women doing a "man's job" or any such thing.
But to say that men are woman are the same, except for physically, is insane.
I've worked in factory jobs with lots of women (and men) and they each have their strengths and weaknesses. But, they are as different as night and day.

Why are we called sexist pointing that out?

Why do you need to point it out? So you can assign roles?

 

[skinner]

Why do you need to point it out? So you can assign roles?

Why do you deny it? I point it out because it's obvious, and some on here are determined to deny the obvious, for whatever reason.

 

[MoonlessNight]

Why do you need to point it out? So you can assign roles?

Why do people feel the need to point out that I am tall? To assign me some sort of role? Probably not (except for those people who want to put me on a basketball team.)

Human beings feel the need to point out the obvious some time, and that's probably a better alternative than choosing to ignore the obvious.

 

[Nymphalidae]

Why do you deny it? I point it out because it's obvious, and some on here are determined to deny the obvious, for whatever reason.

Is it obvious?

 

[skinner]

Is it obvious?

Anyone who's marriaged to a member of the opposite sex can tell you that the differences are obvious.

 

[meebs]

Why do you deny it? I point it out because it's obvious, and some on here are determined to deny the obvious, for whatever reason.

lol - when i worked i a factory there was lady in control of stores who was as good as any man at the job. in fact she was in charge!

 

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Why do you deny it? I point it out because it's obvious, and some on here are determined to deny the obvious, for whatever reason.

Men and women are different from one another, and yes, the majority of the time it is obvious. Those who try to convince themselves that we are equal, are blinded. There is absolutely no logic or science to back up the belief that men and women are equal. We're different. Some of us can compete with men on a physical level, but most women cannot. Why do you think that there are men's and women's races in competitions like the Olympics? Swimming, running, cycling, etc. They separate the sexes because the strength is not equal. It wouldn't be fair to make them compete with one another, because only a few women would make it. Instead, they bring the best of the women and the best of the men.

As far as psychological differences, look at how men and women parent. There are good and bad parents in both sexes, and this is not what I am talking about. I am talking about natural parenting techniques. The approach to parenting, and the approach to the child.

For more psychological evidence of our differences, look at the simplest things, like movies. The entire film industry is geared toward sexes. There are movies that are specifically made for teenage girls. There are movies that are specifically made for adolescent males and there are movies geared toward capturing the "dating" ages, between 16-26. These are the films that earn the most money. They're also the ones with the most violence, the most sex (aside from actual pornography), and the most money put into them. Males in that age bracket are the ones spending most of the money on movies, and though the female also enjoys them, if she were going alone with girlfriends, she'd likely pick another film. Psychological differences between men and women are no secret. All one need do is watch the commercials on tv during the day 9am-3pm. They're geared toward women. From 3pm-5pm they are geared toward children. From 5pm-9pm they are geared toward families with a stronger emphasis on the female. From 9pm-midnight they are geared toward couples with a stronger emphasis on males, and young males. From midnight to 4am, is when you find that the majority of infomercials are geared toward the dating age male audiences again, and all of the regular commercials are as well, so is the tv programming.

The majority of the $$ to be made in this world is based on the differences between men and women. People who don't realize the differences aren't paying attention.

 

[rachelness]

Adiya, the way men and women have been portrayed in the media has changed drastically over the past 50 years. That tells me such differences are not innate, but rather are the result of socialisation. I won't deny there are physical differences between men and women, as you discussed in your first paragraph, but I do believe the psychological differences have been widely exaggerated.