Sheep dream

[Janet842]

I do totally understand what you're saying about going to the obvious place, though from a different angle ... I'm a hunter ... when you're spotting deer, you don't look for what's missing or obvious ... you look at what shouldn't be there or doesn't look right ... from that point of view, what doesn't look right is the absence of doors, windows, and people ... but what is there that shouldn't be? ... I just can't see what that might even be ... I think only you can know that ...

One thing that is there that perhaps shouldn't be is grass between the buildings, instead of sidewalks and streets. What do you make of that?

 

[razeontherock]

One thing that is there that perhaps shouldn't be is grass between the buildings, instead of sidewalks and streets. What do you make of that?

You're leading .. SHEEP! What do sheep eat?

Psa 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me."

This part LOOKED like you were all sure to die. Did anyone die? Maybe G-d wants us to learn to "stop and smell the roses," or "rejoice in the Lord alway?"

There are no doors or windows = nobody can see you. (This may all be past tense, with your 13 years of suffering nobody else could really recognize?)
Our enemy can't see you to stop you or even take effective shots. He can just roar like a lion. What a wonderful likeness!

 

[stranger]

This is a dream I had in the fall of 1983.

Scene 1

There is a lush green pasture with a small flock of sheep. Of them, I was the lead sheep. The flock had to leave that pasture and go through a enemy village. We had to get through without being seen by the enemy who lived there and had to travel during the middle of the day. There was only one way through and that was dead center down through the middle of the village. The village was an uninhabited looking place of windowless, door-less plain block buildings. There were no sidewalks or streets, just rows of block buildings with short grass separating them. There was no one in sight. As we were walking through the middle of the village we were spotted (no visual on this) and I knew that for the flock to get through I would have to stay behind.

Scene 2

I was no longer in sheep form, but now a human being and in a very large room where I was at the front a long line of people, facing them. Their eyes all looked lifeless. They looked like the walking dead – no light in their eyes, only a dullness and death. In front of me was a huge vat filled with something that looked like porridge. All the people held empty plates in front of them and I was putting food on their plates as they walked by. But, the amount I was giving them wasn't enough to sustain them. I didn't understand why, with this huge vat of food, I was only able to give them only a small ladle's worth. I was sent out of this room into an adjoining room.

Scene 3

I didn't know why I was in this room or what I was supposed to do there. This room was not where the people I had been feeding went to eat their portion. I thought maybe I was supposed to clean off the tables, so I went over to one table and there was an oriental man sitting there. People in this place didn’t openly acknowledge their Christianity, but I could discern it in him. He talked to me about how powerful agreeing in prayer was. Then, a bunch of Gestapo-looking men ordered me back into the room full of lifeless, walking-dead people.

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What I know about this dream is that it runs "backwards". I figured that out when I was attending Roeh Israel (a Messianic Jewish congregation) and learned there that Hebrew is read from right to left. Learning that solved some of the mystery about this dream because though Scene 1 and Scene 2 are first in the dream, I experienced Scene 3 first – I met the oriental man in November of 1984, before any of the rest of the dream had happened.

I may be past Scene 2 and somewhere in Scene 1, but I fail to interpret, or understand, the meaning of Scene 1. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Janet

It is not hard to interpret scene 1:-

Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Matthew 7:14 ... narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Later the MANY are saved [Rev 7:9-10] but for now God requires but a few sheep of the lost House of Israel [extensively referred to through OT and NT] to set up the kingdom as its kings and priests of the new covenant when the many are saved in the righteous new earth after the second resurrection.

Thus you , as I , will stay behind when the few saints are 'raptured'... and woe indeed to those who join house to house till there be no space [Isaiah 5:8 ]

Someone has to comfort the gentile masses with the truth that their salvation was never meant to be in this earth, although hundreds of thousands of 'sinner priests' taught them so in this life ... Jesus states that the MANY are later saved [Rev 7:9-10] , not just the first few in this life ... God does not require more than 144,000 king-priests to run His kingdom come to the many in the new earth

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Eze 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

Someone has to comfort the billions left gnashing their teeth because they were lied to by divided traditions of sinners [rather obviously NOT united by the holy spirit into one truth of God , but apostate as Jesus prophesied -Rev 13:3-4, remaining sinners all their lives, not even stopping and so becoming saints who love, remaining sinners who hurt others with sin, sin is always unloving, always disobedience to Jesus , sin is obedience to Satan's temptations]

Thus the 'porridge' is enough to comfort, but not enough to let sinners live as saints in this earth... God does not require the many yet, until the kingdom is set up [during the Millennium] to receive the many at the second resurrection

the dream thus shows the mistake of religious sinners , but that God will call some tocomfort them with teh truth even though they will be destroyed in teh end of this earth ... death is teir freeing from sin and we know the mANY are destroyed [Matt 7:13], but their comfort is that Jesus promises that the MANY of all nations are saved later ,after destruction of this earth [Rev 7:9-10] although only a few sheep find the way of love now [matt 7:14]

 

[razeontherock]

A sheep in the Bible has the exact same meaning as the conformist symbolism I gave you.

No it doesn't.

They [sheep] are afraid or unwilling to be independent or think for themselves.

No we aren't.

paralyzing you from believing in anything that isn't totally accepted by God. Based on your posts on this website it seems like you are so controlled by your beliefs that you can't even have friends that aren't "God Approved."

There is nothing anti-christian about what I'm saying. I resent this.

Resent away, but stop badgering my Sister! Your comments are as anti-Christian as they come, and I'm just glad she's not as you describe, otherwise she might be so foolhardy as to be swayed by your godless rhetoric.

I realize you mean well, but what you don't realize is there's a difference between a dream that comes from our sub-conscious (in which case your interpretation is as good as any) and a message from the True and Living G-d.

Two completely different sources. The rules pertaining to the limited one do not apply to the Limitless One. I know that not-so-subtle point has probably been swept into oblivion due to your education; my Sister's a top PhD in the field.

 

[razeontherock]

I was unaware of the reality that God and Jesus gives people "special dreams."

Yes He does, and this forum exists for the purpose of discussing those, as well as visions of the Lord. You could probably tell that by looking at the title of the sub-forum; doesn't even require an undergrad degree. I'd go so far as to say that if a dream or vision isn't from G-d, that it doesn't belong here, or at least it should be qualified as such, or unsure.

In the case of this thread, we know it IS from G-d, and so long ago the extraneous elements from her own mind have long since been sorted out.

 

[Janet842]

Hi Stranger,

I found your post to be quite interesting, but I wonder why most of it sounds like the teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses, which we all know to be a cult. (Is there a Revelations topic somewhere where you're hanging out for these sort of discussions? Let me know and I'll meet you there.)

I just can't imagine that Scene 1 indicates that I stay behind as one of the 144,000 because, in studying Revelations, it is my understanding that the 144,000 were not mixed descent "heinz 57's" like me (Irish, German, English, French, Cherokee, Scottish – and who knows what else!). “Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel” (Revelation 7:4). Nothing in the passage leads to interpreting the 144,000 as anything but a literal number of Jews—12,000 taken from every tribe of the “sons of Israel.” The New Testament offers no clear cut text replacing Israel with the church. Because I believe the 144,000 will be of purely Jewish descent, that disqualifies me from being one of them – and from your interpretation of that part of my dream.

I would be very surprised to find myself still on the planet if there is a pre-tribulation rapture because, though I attended a Messianic church for a while, I have no idea if I have any Jewish heritage at all. If I do, it's just part of the "heinz 57" mix that I am. My father traced his mother's side of the family back to 1416 Ireland, but he couldn't trace his father's side and all that is known about that side is that my great grandfather was a lay preacher, stepping in to preach on the occasional Sunday when the pastor was out of town. (That was probably back in the late 1800's.) My mother's side of the family is a mystery because my father never traced it for my Mom. All I know is that Mom's dad was German.

 

[Janet842]

Yes He does, and this forum exists for the purpose of discussing those, as well as visions of the Lord.

Ray, I caught your topic about the vision you had... whoa!!! When God wants to get our attention He does so in a big way!

 

[stranger]

Hi Stranger,
I found your post to be quite interesting, but I wonder why most of it sounds like the teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses, which we all know to be a cult. (Is there a Revelations topic somewhere where you're hanging out for these sort of discussions? Let me know and I'll meet you there.)

JWs have indeed a cult religion,just like all the other thousands of divisions of 'Christianity' ...besides that Christ is not divided so logically they must almost all be false [and we see they are taught by continuing sinners to continuing sinners, not by God to those who become saints as in the new covenant -Heb 8:8-12] , by consulting scripture taken as a single whole truth [ignoring none of it , unlike all divisions] one can PROVE the prophesied apostasy of all mass religion ...JWs are no exception ...

So I would say it would be wiser to judge my words by the scriptures from which they come [not from me or from any cult or deniomination], not by listening to sinners or presuming things that aren't true about me

I just can't imagine that Scene 1 indicates that I stay behind as one of the 144,000 because,

I think that you misunderstood, the 144,000 are righteous [loving] saints , God takes them from the earth before the wrath of God on all sinners because they are the only righteous ones in the earth , having been proved in 'baptism of fire', trial of their love for all and for God, to the death in most cases... the scripture is very clear on that and you won't find it repeated in any cult or denomination of sinner 'christianity' [actually an oxymoron since we know all sinners don't follow Jesus , sin is unloving and Jesus commands lovingness to all , as he gets from the few saints , obedience to their lord ... what scripture says is so very different from religious teachings of sinners]

Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil

Jesus states that he will take no sinners at his return [Luke 13:27], all the few [Matt 7:14] are saints by then, not just having stopped sinning, but having their love tried so that it does not fail even when they are threatened with death [and most indeed die refusing religious lies that delude the masses , as Jesus did ,and as scripture records ... so read about their death in you bible, it is of great significance as the blood that witnesses against mass religions of this world ... read Jesus' prophecies of the falling away of religion from his truth 2Thess 2, Rev 13:3-10 - only the few saints are saved this fate , the many are saved later[Rev 7:9-10, not at Jesus' return - we know the many are destroyed in the end of this earth ,not saved now, but Jesus states countless many, not just the few are saved... despite being destroyed in the end of the earth and the heavens ... seriously then, God really does resurrect the unjust too , Jesus says many are saved ,not just the few saved at his return, and all are recovered from death , from hell, despite what sinners now teach -
Revelation 20:13 ... death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

so we know from Jesus that countess many are saved who were in hell[hades] ...that is how far mass religion of sinners has strayed from Jesus' truth , just as Jesus said it must do before his return ... again one can only see this by reading scripture, not from religion obviously, not from sinners [So I try to quote as much scripture as is practicable to show that I am not teaching anything of myself, onlypointing at what the saints and Jesus taught which most now ignore]

in studying Revelations, it is my understanding that the 144,000 were not mixed descent "heinz 57's" like me (Irish, German, English, French, Cherokee, Scottish – and who knows what else!). “Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel” (Revelation 7:4). Nothing in the passage leads to interpreting the 144,000 as anything but a literal number of Jews—12,000 taken from every tribe of the “sons of Israel.”

Jews [essentially the House of Judah] are indeed visible Israel , one has to read the OT to find out who the other larger part of Israel were , the 'House of Israel' ... all were idol-worshippers and remained so even after being scattered worldwide by God , merging with the gentile nations , mixing blood with gentiles wherever they found a place to live [having lost their homeland through defeat and captivity]
:-
Deuteronomy 28:64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

Isaiah 7:8 For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.

Ephraim, grandson adopted as a full son of Israel [Jacob] , was the tribe that utterly dominated the ten tribes of the House of Israel, yet it vanished , split up and merged into gentle nations worldwide ... they never accepted Judaism , never became Jews, but are truly descendants of Jacob , paganised as gentiles, indistinguishable from gentiles after living Millennia as gentiles ... so look at Rev 7:3-8 again, the main tribal contribution to the House of Judah was only the tribe of Judah , half the tribe of Levi [as priests] and at least part of Benjamin ... MOST then of the 144,000 are not Jews , most seem to be gentiles ...

Jesus did not send his disciples to the Jews [although most of the early disciples were Jews] but to the LOST House of Israel amongst the gentiles :-

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Most 'sinner christians' do not know why Jesus said the true gospel would always mention Mary's anointing of him as king of Israel, but that is because they do not know what the 'Christ', the 'Messiah', means! ... that Jesus is the prophesied KING come to reunite the LOST House of Israel with the VISIBLE Jews back into a single nation

Ezekiel 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

The New Testament offers no clear cut text replacing Israel with the church. Because I believe the 144,000 will be of purely Jewish descent, that disqualifies me from being one of them – and from your interpretation of that part of my dream.

I would be very surprised to find myself still on the planet if there is a pre-tribulation rapture because, though I attended a Messianic church for a while, I have no idea if I have any Jewish heritage at all. If I do, it's just part of the "heinz 57" mix that I am.

As I try to show above from scripture [but read it yourself in total] , the House of Israel never were Jews and stayed idol-worshippers after being scattered, long before the Jews were scattered ... The House of Israel have disappeared and become gentiles , they never were and still are not , Jews...

the fact that you went WITH the sheep tells me you will come to KNOW the truth of scriptures and defeat the lies of mass religion to sinners, but the fact you stay behind signifies to em that you will stay behind [like me?] at the 'rapture' of the few to comfort the masses deluded by the then-discredited mass religions of sinners [including modern Christianity and Judaism] to simply repeat what the scripture of the saints and prophets of God has always said ... it won't save them in this life, but at least they will know that God has not abandoned them , as they have been taught He will

My father traced his mother's side of the family back to 1416 Ireland, but he couldn't trace his father's side and all that is known about that side is that my great grandfather was a lay preacher, stepping in to preach on the occasional Sunday when the pastor was out of town. (That was probably back in the late 1800's.) My mother's side of the family is a mystery because my father never traced it for my Mom. All I know is that Mom's dad was German.

My own genealogy includes French and Scottish and a direct male line back to the advisor to Wiliiam the Conqueror but no further than 1000 years ago in Northern France, but , as that shows, genealogies are not important because they do not go far enough mostly and the remnant of Israel is not all of Israel [there are vastly more Jews that the few who are firstfruits, and far more firstfruits are of the House of Israel, believing fully they are gentiles , unable to trace genealogies back as far as the scattering of the House of Israel :-
1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

The facts of scripture are that God Himself teaches ALL the 144,000 as the new covenant states [Heb 8:8-12] ... they do not teach each other for they have no need to do so [compare with religion] ... no-one under grace teaches anyone under grace because all are baptised by God Himself to know all truth and the future [John 16:13]

Thus one really can tell if one is one of the 144,000 , it isbn't a matter of debate or believing in sinners ['leap of faith' in lies] , God really does teach all the few He requires to set up the kingdom , nothing left to sinners , even if they dress up and run churches and sects and denominations

Read 2Thess 2 and you will find out what mass religion is for , and its end Rev 13:3-10 ... all the world will worship the WRONG god , the one in place of Christ ['antichristos' in Greek] ...we already have a man claiming to be in place of the son of God , leading over a billion folks down a path different than the 144,000 of scripture , taught by men, not God , taught by sinners, not saints...

[on which point note that the saints do teach sinners, but sinners are not ordained by God to teach sinners despite that there are hundreds of thousands doing so worldwide ... as Jesus says, the whole world will worship the dragon, that means the utter corruption of mass religion, and frankly it is obviously here already ]

So my interpretation of your dream, using scripture, not religion, is that you are one of the called who is not chosen to be first redeemed with the 144,000

that you are cjosen to comfort the billions left gnashing their teeth at religion when Jesus comes and takes only teh 144,000 that he has said he will take away from the wrath of God and destruction of this earth

But I would urge you to find this out for yourself from scripture , and stop listening to sinners [even those who dress up, ironically as OT priests LOL? ]

 

[stranger]

I stand corrected by your stunning retorts. You said I'm wrong, so I must be. Let us learn from my ignorance based on rational thinking, evidence, and real world feedback. For I was unaware of the reality that God and Jesus think Christians are so much more important than all other people that he actually gives them "special dreams."

And we all know that thinking of ourselves as more important than others is the most important teaching in the Bible. Having humility, respect, and love for all humanity as equals is the most abhorrent sin the devil ever devised.

I surrender. You win.

All folks will have dreams and visions one day :-
Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

it does not make anyone special just because God needs a few [Matt 7:14] to be priests and kings of the new covenant in the kingdom come ... not many can be kings, it is simply not needed , and they are kings only because God makes them so, they are ordinary humble human beings in this life who God turns into saints for His own purpose in the later salvation of countless many [Rev7:9-10]... as for the proud, God says they will be broken of their pride first...

 

[razeontherock]

... elegance to my arguments. So much so that I can now sit back satisfied that I am so completely vindicated that anything else I could say would just ruin a perfect argument.

Yes I can see your heart perfectly on this matter and this is why non-Christians aren't supposed to be posting in this sub-forum. This is not the place for arguing.

I'm not sure where is, but I'm sure you can find somewhere online for that ...


I don't know how we got onto the topic of the book of THE (singular) Revelation OF Jesus Christ TO St John the Divine, but it seems quite odd to me to think that any of it will necessarily happen in any way that phsycally resembles the words of the book.

It's a vision.

Throughout all of Scripture, when was a vision ever given, and the correct interpretation was anything like the vision? NEVER.

The fulfillment of the vision was always something that had underlying Spiritual properties represented in the vision. Why would G-d all of a sudden change that, in the very last book, knowing that it's much harder than all the rest to begin with, and we are ...

SHEEP? (loving and affectionate, but DUMB, compared to Him )

 

[Janet842]

Can we now go back to staying on topic with dream interpretation from Christians only and no more discourses about the Book of Revelation?

 

[stranger]

Can we now go back to staying on topic with dream interpretation from Christians only and no more discourses about the Book of Revelation?

You didn't discuss my post on your dream five posts above...

As for the revelation of Jesus Christ, it has much to do with the interpretation of your dream , it contains much of the info needed to interpret it from Christ's words.

As for straying off topic, it was you who started making false assertions and talking about JWs, which has nothing to do with sticking to the topic ... it would be as well then to review what you write to see yourself if it is on topic , if you do not like folks responding to irrelevant topics you raise on your own thread ...

 

[Janet842]

Stranger, I asked you if there was a Book of Revelation topic somewhere where you're hanging out for these sort of discussions so I could meet you there. You're obviously quite passionate about your interpretation and it differs considerably from previous teachings that I have heard, so I have some questions I'd like to ask you. But turning the Dreams and Visions Forum into a question/answer discussion about the Book of Revelation isn't an appropriate use of this forum, so I was disappointed to see you continue on here – especially after I made that request.

I would like to ask you some questions, but I don't intend to do that in this topic or in this Dreams and Visions forum. I haven't seen input from moderators anywhere on Christian Forums as yet (maybe because I haven't been on CF for very long), so it seems we have to police ourselves in following the directives for the use of the CF forums. That is what I'm trying to do.

So, move it, or end it? Your choice.

 

[stranger]

Ok ask your questions elsewhere and send me a link by PM or here if you like , but I can only tell you what scripture says about your dream, I cannot give you my interpretation of your dream as I have none.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

Just so we're clear I want to point out that you quoted me out of context to suit your own arguments.

I did NOT say "I was unaware of the reality that God and Jesus gives people "special dreams."

I DID say "For I was unaware of the reality that God and Jesus think Christians are so much more important than all other people that he actually gives them "special dreams."

My post was commenting on your arrogance, and your dedication to using other peoples words to suit your own agenda just adds elegance to my arguments. So much so that I can now sit back satisfied that I am so completely vindicated that anything else I could say would just ruin a perfect argument.

Thumper, you list your faith as Oneness. Is this what your faith is? Oneness Symbol Spiritual & Religious Jewelry, Gifts & Embroidered Interfaith Stoles. - I was trying to find the symbol you have for your faith, which is why the site I posted a link to is about symbols, but it also tells about "Oneness." This also led me to the "Unity Church" - Unity of Charlotte -- Unity Teachings.

Is this what you believe? From reading just a few of your posts here, it sounds like this is exactly what you believe. If so, let me note here that this D&V site is for Christians only, for the purpose of sharing dreams that we receive from Jesus Christ (God), as we believe in a Triune God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit) and that he is the only true God and there is no other. All other religions and all other gods are false. So, true Christians cannot and will not be blended together as one with other religions who do not believe in Jesus Christ as the ONLY WAY to the Father.

Those who are truly in Christ know that we cannot bow to any other god. If this makes us intollerant, then praise God!! Daniel was intollerant. Shadrach, Meschach and Abednego were intollerant. So were the disciples and the prophets and all those who believed in only One way and One God who is not the father of all religions, but is the Father of only one faith and that faith is in Jesus Christ as our Lord and as our Savior and as our Messiah. He is the only way, the only truth, and the only life and no one comes to the Father except through HIM, and HIM alone.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

Thumper, you list your faith as Oneness. Is this what your faith is? Oneness Symbol Spiritual & Religious Jewelry, Gifts & Embroidered Interfaith Stoles. - I was trying to find the symbol you have for your faith, which is why the site I posted a link to is about symbols, but it also tells about "Oneness." This also led me to the "Unity Church" - Unity of Charlotte -- Unity Teachings.

Is this what you believe? From reading just a few of your posts here, it sounds like this is exactly what you believe. If so, let me note here that this D&V site is for Christians only, for the purpose of sharing dreams that we receive from Jesus Christ (God), as we believe in a Triune God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit) and that he is the only true God and there is no other. All other religions and all other gods are false. So, true Christians cannot and will not be blended together as one with other religions who do not believe in Jesus Christ as the ONLY WAY to the Father.

Those who are truly in Christ know that we cannot bow to any other god. If this makes us intollerant, then praise God!! Daniel was intollerant. Shadrach, Meschach and Abednego were intollerant. So were the disciples and the prophets and all those who believed in only One way and One God who is not the father of all religions, but is the Father of only one faith and that faith is in Jesus Christ as our Lord and as our Savior and as our Messiah. He is the only way, the only truth, and the only life and no one comes to the Father except through HIM, and HIM alone.

Here is another link to the Unity of religion - What is Unity?

 

[stranger]

"No one can speak for all Unity ministers and teachers."
What is Unity?

Enough said ?

In Jesus' 'congregation/church' of saints Jesus and every member is one with God

that is unity in love and truth of God

despite religious tradition, God has no unity with sinners or their mass churches :-

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:

It is rather obvious from the division within all religions right down to individual beliefs that religious tradition is of this world, not of the uniting single truth given by God Himself under teh new covenant :-

Heb 8:10 ... I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

Enough said really, mankind's religion is not united by God , thus indeed is of Satan , Jesus tells us that all bar a few saints will indeed unite in a one world religion [which beheads the saints of God as 'heretics' in similar fashion to to the crucifixion of Jesus]

Rev 13:3 ... and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon ...

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Quite incredibly then the UNITY of religion under Satan is prophesied by Jesus and almost all Christians ignore it yet say they believe Jesus ... enough said ...

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

 

[Janet842]

In the past few days, what it is to mentor and the need for it has been on my mind - at lot - and I've been wondering if the Lord wants me to start a mentoring program at my church when I return. (I'm in Phoenix for a few months.) Mentoring is something I have been doing for most of my Christian walk. Though there have been attempts to build mentoring programs at my church in the past, a sustainable program has never happened and there truly is a need for one. Tonight, I decided to email a message to the head of Women's Ministries at my church. Right as I was typing my email, the final interpretation to the first scene of my sheep dream came to me and it is this:

The small flock that I lead is made up of those I mentor -- both people who need mentoring and also those I will oversee who will choose to participate in a mentoring program. Leading the flock through the enemy village is to see them through their life's challenges, trials and tribulations. Why I have to stop at the end of the village is because that point represents where those in the flock have grown emotionally and spiritually and are ready to go on alone to fulfill what the Lord has for them. They no longer need mentoring.

Merry Christmas to me! After all these years, I now not only understand the dream but also my calling! (And I definitely have some preparations to do before returning home in May!)

 

[strangertoo]

One thing that is there that perhaps shouldn't be is grass between the buildings, instead of sidewalks and streets. What do you make of that?

1 Peter 1:24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

Isaiah 5:8 Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!

Revelation 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

James 1:11 For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways.