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Mallon

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If you search "creation" or "create" in the Scripture, you will get tens of hits. But they are not all talking about the same process or have the same meaning. The creation in Gen 1 is unique. It is not the same as "create" a fetus.
Whatever you say, juve. As you say, I always fail when arguing with you, so I guess I'll just concede defeat here in light of your impenetrable logic.
 
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juvenissun

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Whatever you say, juve. As you say, I always fail when arguing with you, so I guess I'll just concede defeat here in light of your impenetrable logic.

In fact, I am eagerly looking forward a defeat. I can learn much faster that way. That is why I like to talk about things I don't really know much, such as fossils.

When one was young, he can "choose" a teacher. As one got older, he could only "met" a teacher. It is quite uncomfortable to discover that eventually one could only hope to "find" a teacher. Even I still can learn a bit from you, another bit from someone else, but the only teacher I have now is the Lord. This is all the fault of humanistic education. I could have Him as my only teacher when I was in 20's.
 
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You know what? I thought about this a lot since the last time we talked about it. Now l like to think the spirit of every "new" person may not be "new". However, it does not mean reincarnation. Instead, they are the spirits God has created during the Six Days. Too bad that God does not say anything about it in Genesis 1.

Indeed, too bad that little of anything you say has any basis in scripture or anywhere else, as also amply demonstrated by this nonsensical rambling...

If so, the God becomes very labor laden and does not show its power. If it has to happen, then it should be angel's work, rather than God's work.

If you cannot recognise God in the mundane things of nature, then you will not be able to recognise him in the grand things.
 
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Well, now we are getting into the nature of God. You may have God do anything and everything at all the time. That may well be your God, but such a character is not a part of my God.

My God is like a King. He sets up the kingdom and instructs His staff how to run the nation. He sits on the throne, but not running around to do everything.

What has God created today? 1200 new souls in Europe, 4500 new souls in Asia, 3 supernovae somewhere out there, and ... and ... . That is ridiculous.

Juvie can you tell me who is being refered to in Ephesians 2:7? It shows how preposterous your idea of God is.

Ephesians 2:7 - "..but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant.."
 
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In fact, I am eagerly looking forward a defeat.
You need your eyes checked, this place is littered with your 'defeats'
I can learn much faster that way.
If only you learned anything at all
That is why I like to talk about things I don't really know much
Lets just leave it at that ok?
 
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In fact, I am eagerly looking forward a defeat. I can learn much faster that way. That is why I like to talk about things I don't really know much, such as fossils.

When one was young, he can "choose" a teacher. As one got older, he could only "met" a teacher. It is quite uncomfortable to discover that eventually one could only hope to "find" a teacher. Even I still can learn a bit from you, another bit from someone else, but the only teacher I have now is the Lord. This is all the fault of humanistic education. I could have Him as my only teacher when I was in 20's.
That made absolutely no sense.
 
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Common, make it clear. What is it? "stubborn fool"?
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No not "stubborn fool", the word God used to describe them is "create". Though God has created quite a few stubborn fools.
 
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Juvie can you tell me who is being refered to in Ephesians 2:7? It shows how preposterous your idea of God is.

Ephesians 2:7 - "..but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant.."

Exactly. The Spirit of baby Jesus is NOT a new one. We can not say Jesus was "created".
 
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Exactly. The Spirit of baby Jesus is NOT a new one. We can not say Jesus was "created".

We're not talking about Jesus being created, do you actually have any idea what is being discussed here? You had just finished making the claim that God simply sits on his throne and doesn't bother getting involved with his Creation, then I showed you a verse telling us that Christ became a servant, showing how wrong your idea of God is.

Fess up Juvie, you are not a teacher of anyone or anything, if you were I pity the poor student who sits at your feet.
 
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Fess up Juvie, you are not a teacher of anyone or anything, if you were I pity the poor student who sits at your feet.

Or the poor student who sits at anybody's feet, for that matter. That's a completely outdated pedagogical style, to say nothing of it directly contradicting Scripture:
[if] you say to the poor man, “You stand over there,” or, “Sit down at my feet,” have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? (Jas 2:4, ESV)
... wait. You mean, not literally sitting at feet? Sorry. I was just applying the rule of interpretation. There's nothing obviously figurative about that sentence, you know. You'd make a terrible writer of Scripture theFijian.
 
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