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She says In her heart I sit as queen and am no widow

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That's from Revelation 18 and the fall of Babylon the great.
Ok so far we have a city that believes her husband is a King and that this King is alive and well , and that she is somehow blessed because of her affilliation to him.

So who is this King..?
Rev isn't for amateurs. Anyone who reads and tries to pin the meanings on exterior/physical features such as a real country, city or a person/person's is automatically off base.

Why? Because they never factor in the devil and his messengers. They just look on the outside, never on the inside. That's actually a leading of the devil and his own.

So, even though I'll bold this as to "Babylon" from a couple of simple scriptures, people who remain under the blindness of the devil still won't get the picture. I still believe such are saved, but whatever.

Revelation 18:2

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Synopsis: Babylon the great is DEVILS, the hold of FOUL SPIRIT, a cage of HATE.

Now, knowing this fact, where did Jesus show us where devils are?

If you answered, IN PEOPLE you heard right. The unseen resides in the seen. Therefore it's pointless to point at the seen and miss the underlying cause altogether.

Just to bolster this fact of scripture, let's see where "the harlot sits":

Revelation 17:15

And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Brilliant deduction. AND why is this "thing," this evil being called a woman and a harlot? Because PEOPLE are meant to be THE BRIDE OF CHRIST.

Get it?

Let's try it again from another scripture:

Revelation 16:13-14

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Synopsis: The DRAGON, the BEAST and the FALSE PROPHET are all the SPIRITS OF DEVILS. i.e. NOT people. Even though these reside in people they are NOT people.

And let's finish off with the antiChrist and what John tells us the antiChrist is:

1 John 4:3

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Anyone looking for a singular person as thee antiChrist is wasting their time. The antiChrist is part of the spirits of devils. We have an enemy. It's not our fellow man. It's the DEVIL, plain and simple.

John gave us all excellent advice, rather than worry about some guy, antiChrist:

2 John 1:8
Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
 
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Rev isn't for amateurs. Anyone who reads and tries to pin the meanings on exterior/physical features such as a real country, city or a person/person's is automatically off base.

Why? Because they never factor in the devil and his messengers. They just look on the outside, never on the inside. That's actually a leading of the devil and his own.

So, even though I'll bold this as to "Babylon" from a couple of simple scriptures, people who remain under the blindness of the devil still won't get the picture. I still believe such are saved, but whatever.

Revelation 18:2

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Synopsis: Babylon the great is DEVILS, the hold of FOUL SPIRIT, a cage of HATE.

Now, knowing this fact, where did Jesus show us where devils are?

If you answered, IN PEOPLE you heard right. The unseen resides in the seen. Therefore it's pointless to point at the seen and miss the underlying cause altogether.

Just to bolster this fact of scripture, let's see where "the harlot sits":

Revelation 17:15

And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Brilliant deduction. AND why is this "thing," this evil being called a woman and a harlot? Because PEOPLE are meant to be THE BRIDE OF CHRIST.

Get it?

Let's try it again from another scripture:

Revelation 16:13-14

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Synopsis: The DRAGON, the BEAST and the FALSE PROPHET are all the SPIRITS OF DEVILS. i.e. NOT people. Even though these reside in people they are NOT people.

And let's finish off with the antiChrist and what John tells us the antiChrist is:

1 John 4:3

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Anyone looking for a singular person as thee antiChrist is wasting their time. The antiChrist is part of the spirits of devils. We have an enemy. It's not our fellow man. It's the DEVIL, plain and simple.

John gave us all excellent advice, rather than worry about some guy, antiChrist:

2 John 1:8
Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
Very interesting. Thank you for your perspective.
 
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That's from Revelation 18 and the fall of Babylon the great.
Ok so far we have a city that believes her husband is a King and that this King is alive and well , and that she is somehow blessed because of her affilliation to him.

So who is this King..?
To understand this you have to be able too grasp who this "Queen" represents. The Harlot of Rev. 17 is ALL FALSE RELIGION of All Time, trust me I can dissect why, Dan. 5 is Rev. 17 basically retold on a world stage.

Babylon = the WHOLE WORLD under Satan's Dark rule of Confusion. So, when Babylon falls, Satan is locked up for 1000 years. Notice, Babylon has become full of Devils/Demons in vs. 2, well yes, Satan and his demons gets cast down to earth at the mid-point, and Apollyon and his demons in the pit are released at the first woe.

Satan is thus THAT KING, he has the 7 crowns on the 7 headed Red Dragon Beast because he is king over every kingdom on earth as he tells Jesus in Luke 4, I will give my kingdoms to you if you will just knell down and worship me.

We know Babylon is the whole world because in Rev. 16:19, when Jesus lands and destroys the nations, God says He gives His WRATH to Babylon the great. So, who does Jesus defeat? Well, Vial #6 tells us, The KINGS of the WHOLE WORLD.

What an apt description, Babylon = Confusion, and Satan gets the WHOLE WORLD to fight against their loving Creator !!
 
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Well I think there is.
A queen must have a King otherwise she is not a Queen.
She is not a widow so her husband the King must be alive , and so on and so forth.

The only reason that I can see that you say no King is shown , is because you chose Rome.
Had you chosen Vatican city we could say her husband is Jesus Christ. And if Jerusalem we could say God/Yahweh.
And if Mecca , we could say Allah.

But you chose Rome and are now trying to make it fit by saying no King is involved ( Rolls eyes )
You can always change your view point , theres an empty chair on my side just waiting for a nice fella like yourself....:)
v7 "Give her as much torment and grief
as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
In her heart she boasts,
‘I sit enthroned as queen.
I am not a widow;
I will never mourn.’"

Her title is an illegitimate claim out of corruption of her own heart not from a legitimate claim through marriage with a king. Kings sleep with her out of their own lust and greed but she is no queen, she us a prostitute.
 
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