Teaching (no posting) Sharing Prophetic Messages as led.

[Victor E.]

The price a person will pay for being a 'hard word' prophet is this..

You will never be 'liked' as a person.

Your word's will be unpopular and even despised.. by those whom the word is for, and who's conscience is spoken to by it.

You won't garner 'like's' or positive responses like other folks who prophesy encouragement only.

The truth is, the times we live in are very hard and many people are in pain.

They don't want to hear a 'hard word'.. so they will incline their ear to only encouraging words and things that bring hope and comfort.

But that does not discredit the call or ministry of a 'hard word' prophet.

The fact is, you will be incredibly anointed and yet face undue rejection, dishonor, and skepticism because this is guaranteed within the 'job description'.

Notice how many prophet's and prophetesses we have now who've built their ministry entirely upon encouragement.

It's very easy, and also very lucrative.

I don't mean to cast too much shade.. because we need prophetic encouragement.

But there is an account in the Old testament where the priest's loved when the people sinned because they got rich off of it.

'6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

7 As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame.

8 They eat up the sin of my people, and they set their heart on their iniquity.

9 And there shall be, like people, like priest: and I will punish them for their ways, and reward them their doings.

10 For they shall eat, and not have enough: they shall commit whoredom, and shall not increase: because they have left off to take heed to the LORD.

11 Whoredom and wine and new wine take away the heart.

12 My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of whoredoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God.'

(Hosea 4:6-12)

Yeah, this is where we get the term 'prophetic word junkies'.. where people lust and chase after any prophetic word that sounds good to their ear.

But woe to you when all men shall speak well of you.

'Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.'

(Luke 6:26)

A real Prophet is not meant to be popular or invited.. and they can't be bought out or bribed to change the message.

In 1 Kings 22..

Micaiah prophesied against King Ahab who was himself surrounded by hundreds of lying prophet's who only told the king what he wanted to hear.

So Ahab hated Micaiah because Micaiah had a real word from the Lord and Ahab wouldn't hear it because it brought him no solace or comfort.

'7 But Jehoshaphat asked, “Is there no longer a prophet of the Lord here whom we can inquire of?”

8 The king of Israel answered Jehoshaphat, “There is still one prophet through whom we can inquire of the Lord, but I hate him because he never prophesies anything good about me, but always bad. He is Micaiah son of Imlah.”

“The king should not say such a thing,” Jehoshaphat replied.'

(1 Kings 22:7-8)

Well, Micaiah told Ahab that He would die in the upcoming battle.

Ahab did indeed die and the dogs licked up his blood from the very chariot he had rode on.. as the Word of the Lord had declared.

'34 But someone drew his bow at random and hit the king of Israel between the sections of his armor. The king told his chariot driver, “Wheel around and get me out of the fighting. I’ve been wounded.”

35 All day long the battle raged, and the king was propped up in his chariot facing the Arameans. The blood from his wound ran onto the floor of the chariot, and that evening he died.

36 As the sun was setting, a cry spread through the army: “Every man to his town. Every man to his land!”

37 So the king died and was brought to Samaria, and they buried him there.

38 They washed the chariot at a pool in Samaria (where the prostitutes bathed), and the dogs licked up his blood, as the word of the Lord had declared.'

(1 Kings 22:34-38)

Yes, while the fate of the 'hard word' prophet is to be imprisoned, rejected, and isolated just as Micaiah was never freed from being imprisoned..

Those for whom the Prophet's word is for.. they will lose the battle in the end.

The amount of people who will accept your word as a 'hard word' prophet doesn't matter.

All that matters is that you delivered it.. so their blood will not be on your hands.

'But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.'

(Ezekiel 33:6)

Again, don't be so hasty to try and garner favor with people or impress them.

That's not included in the role of a 'hard word' prophet.

This part in the body is without honor because it has no need of a special covering of honor.

It receives its own honor from God.

'And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.'

(1 Corinthians 12:23)

Grace and peace to you.

 

[Victor E.]

On the '5-fold ministry'.

What is the 5-fold ministry?

The 5-fold ministry belief is a concept pulled from Ephesians 4:7-16.

The gifts listed here are known as the 'ascension gifts'.

These gifts are different from other (similar) lists of gifting found elsewhere in God's Word.

The ascension gifts are gifted people whom God gives to the Body of Christ as gifts.

Their very life is the gift. Let's go through the scripture.

'7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

(Ephesians 4:7)

The writer starts off in vs. 7 by stating a well known truth, that every one of us (in the Body) is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

They write in this way to establish a starting point to build from, seeing as how some of the intended audience is likely to be unaware of spiritual gifts in general (see 1 Corinthians 12:1).

'8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:'

(Ephesians 4:8-13)

The writer then goes on to inform the audience that within the spiritual gifts, there are 5 different ministry roles (or 'offices') that are given through the measure of the gift of Christ.

The purpose of these roles is to perfect the saints, for the purpose of the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the entire Body of Christ.

Some apostles, some prophet's, some evangelists, and some pastor's/teacher's.

Note that the role of pastor and teacher's are listed together which means these roles are interchangeable and overlap in some capacity.

The end goal for the 5-fold ministry roles (ascension gifts) is to collectively bring the Body of Christ into the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.

In other words, to bring every believer to complete spiritual maturity.

So that as He is in this world, so are we.

'14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness*, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part*, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.'

(Ephesians 4:14-16)

At this point, the writer states a secondary purpose.

The benefit of the 5-fold ministry is that when we grow spiritually mature, we would no longer be deceived, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine that we hear.

But by speaking the truth in love, the Body of Christ may grow up into Christ in all things.

Just as God desires.

This is only possible according to the effectual working in the measure of every part of the Body (for there are different parts - 1 Corinthians 12:12-27).

(Ephesians 4:7-16)

Really the book of Ephesians is targeted to a Church that is far more advanced in their devotion to Christ than say.. the Church of Corinth (who was still struggling with sexual immorality, gluttony, and selfishness).

Comparing the 5-fold ministry found in the book of Ephesians with passages in Romans 12 and/or 1 Corinthians 12 in order to determine the 'validity' of the 5-fold ministry belief is unwise.

It's like comparing apples to oranges, and rejecting the role of the 5-fold ministry within the Church altogether.. this is even more unwise.

God intended there to be order within the Church for a reason, so that the Church would be ready for the work Christ has given to us.

However, the Church as a whole is very immature and has largely rejected the 5-fold ministry.. that's why they struggle as they do.

There's this belief that every believer is 'equal' in the Church.. and the 5-fold ministry therefore doesn't exist.

It's true that our positional status as 'children of God' in Christ is equal.

It is untrue that we all have the same role/office and can fulfill every function to the same degree as each other.

But many of us already know this.. that's why it doesn't sit right with some of us when we read 'we can all do everything in Christ so the 5-fold ministry isn't necessary'.

The purpose of the 5-fold ministry is to equip the saints.

It's to empower the saints with the knowledge of God's design and purpose in Christ.

So, anyone rejecting the 5-fold ministry AND teaching others to do the same.. they are only causing harm.

It's ok to reject the 5-fold ministry as a personal decision (that's on you).. but don't hinder others from advancing in their walk of faith.

There's a lot of believer's teaching and preaching well outside of their lane, and outside of God's favor.

God's love and God's favor are two different things.

This is important to understand.

Furthermore, an excess of prophetic encouragement/empowerment leads to entitlement and disillusionment.

Concerning the benefits of the 5-fold ministry..

There are those will not go in, neither will they suffer them that are entering.. to go in.

'But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.'

(Matthew 23:13)

The irony of it all is this:

Those who preach and teach against 'religion' and accuse anyone they feel like as being a 'religious Pharisee of law'...

They condemn their own selves because they have become exactly what they so despise.

'9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.'

(Titus 3:9-11)

Yes, the one who continually hates, dishonors, or despises someone else... keep it up and you will eventually become just like them, so take heed.

A brief message on the 5-fold ministry.

May God bless you and keep you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Victor E.]

God's Number System throughout the Bible (a more focused guide).

1 - Wholeness. Singleness.
2 - Multiplication.
3 - Power of God
4 - The Creation
5 - The Grace of God
6 - Man
7 - Perfection
8 - New Beginnings
9 - The Holy Spirit
10 - (The) Law
11 - Chaos
12 - Government
13 - Rebellion
40 - Testing
400 - Silence

To plug in a few examples:

1 - 'If your eye be single your whole body will be full of light' (Matthew 6:22-23)

3 - Signs, miracles, wonders. 'Holy, Holy, Holy'. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Death, Burial, Resurrection.

The Lord Jesus reinstates Peter 3x after Peter denies Him 3x (John 13:36-38, Matthew 26:69-75, John 21:15-25)

4 - 4 Great angels of the Elements (Matthew 24:31), 4 Cardinal directions, 4 Living Creatures (Revelation 4:6-11) etc.

2 - 'Be fruitful and multiply (subdue the earth)' (Genesis 1:27-28), Noah led the animals into the ark in pairs of 2 for the purpose of re-population of the wildlife - Genesis 6:19-20).

9 - 9 Gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:7-11), 9 fruits of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23)

You can plug numbers in as 'keys' throughout the Bible.. God does have a number system and certain numbers or repetition of numbers are not mere coincidence, they serve a divine purpose.

Even in the Parables numbers are used by the Lord Jesus.. if you want to search out real Kingdom theology (without the opinions of man, differing belief systems of Christianity, disagreements, theological debates, denominations etc.).

The Lord God also combines numbers in some instances of scripture and this goes to signify other things.. it requires the spirit of wisdom and revelation to understand the things He hides.

'It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.'

(Proverbs 25:2)

'17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him'

(Ephesians 1:17)

'Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.'

(Jeremiah 33:3)

'6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.'

(1 Corinthians 2:6-15)

One more thing..

God's number system is directly referenced in the book of Revelation.

'Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.'

(Revelation 13:18)

This verse specifically calls for wisdom and one who has understanding to calculate. This falls in line with many other spiritual truths in God's Word.

No one could know the purpose and meaning of God's design without the guidance of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:9).

Grace and peace to you, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ..

 

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