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Hello everyone,

I have been wondering about the shape of Infinite space. I still haven't figured it out. What's the shape of Infinite space?
Can something infinite sized really have a shape?

I guess it could have a texture and that is like a shape on a smaller scale.
 
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A circle is infinite. No start point and therefore no end.

From a perspective of the one dimensional line on the circumference it't finite, but unbounded.

Some people theorise that the universe could be the same: a finite three dimensional space wrapped around on itself in a fourth dimension.
 
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From a perspective of the one dimensional line on the circumference it't finite, but unbounded.

Some people theorise that the universe could be the same: a finite three dimensional space wrapped around on itself in a fourth dimension.
Math.... ptptpththt.
 
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Some people theorise that the universe could be the same: a finite three dimensional space wrapped around on itself in a fourth dimension.

Otherwise known as the 'doner kebab' hypothesis?

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Space is infinite. You can’t count to it, you can only count towards it. Space is ever expanding. So they say. Only as far as we can see. Is the red shift accurate? Still only a theory. They have not witnessed the speed and direction of the stars and only guessed about how far they are from us.
 
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Ignoring the attempts of creationists to derail yet another thread, the current consensus is the entire universe (as opposed to the observable universe) is either very large or infinite in size as it is flat with a measured curvature of near zero.
This needs to be treated with caution however as there are other surfaces which are topologically flat but are finite sized such as a torus.

The curvature can calculated by measuring the hot and cold spots in the CMB (cosmic microwave background) by decomposing the signal from the CMB into various scales as explained in this post.
These hot and cold spots have an apparent size ~1⁰ in diameter and are produced by sound waves caused by plasma oscillations undergoing compression and rarefaction travelling through the hot ionized gas in the early universe at a known speed v = c/√3 where c is the speed of light for a known length of time (375,000 years).
The angular separation between the hot and cold spots caused by compression and rarefaction respectively corresponds to the wavelength of the sound wave which means the actual size of the hot and cold spots can be calculated.
When the universe cooled down and became transparent these hot and cold spots became permanent records in the CMB.

By comparing the apparent size of the spots to their known actual size, the curvature of the light path between the CMB and the observer and therefore the geometry of the universe can be determined.

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It is found from the light paths the apparent and actual diameters are based on triangulation where the angles add up to 180⁰ which is a property of flat space hence the evidence points to scenario (b) indicating a possibly infinitely large universe.
 
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Hello everyone,

I have been wondering about the shape of Infinite space. I still haven't figured it out. What's the shape of Infinite space?

Current cosmological models indicate a non-infinite universe. As far as the shape of space-time, well, my understanding is that the jury is still out on that.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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