Shall we develop meds togather?

[TheReasoner]

No offence to you, but it was catholic nuns and catholic monks that started to treat illness with first alchohol, after that they started to iinvent other drugs as well. The devil took over the production of medicine. I believe this is were Jesus says in the gospel "If satan caste out satan, how can his kingdom stand?" and Jesus add "That will be your judgement". Pharisees and Scirbes took over the production of diffrent medicine. And that causes agony with the afflicted!

No matter whether it is biomedicine or chemistry the scientists invent a certain treatment linked to the medicine. It is this treatment that supposingly would heal the afflicted. It is not the meds or chemical that cures illness, it is the treatment they get. Penalism is never good.

You could say that you invent the things the meds do to you or to elaborate even more - the effects of the medicine is also invented.

Lillen, I say this with all the love I can muster:
If you are serious about what you write in your posts then you are in need of help. You need to go to a psychiatrist. And no, they are not the devil's servants. They do know what they are about and can help you. Okay? Go see a doctor, Lillen. If you're in Sweden it should be free for you.

 

[Lillen]

Lillen, I say this with all the love I can muster:
If you are serious about what you write in your posts then you are in need of help. You need to go to a psychiatrist. And no, they are not the devil's servants. They do know what they are about and can help you. Okay? Go see a doctor, Lillen. If you're in Sweden it should be free for you.

We agree I am in need of help, not only that, i also wet my bed each and every night! Moreover i should actually go and see a psychaitrist, and when lolita is sent on my because I suspect myself to be a serial killer and a pedofile, I will ask her if I can suck her thoung.

 

[Lillen]

Back to medschool.

Lillen snus, can be used instead of tobacco, it is clearly a substitute because of the burning feeling you get in your mouth thanks to it. More researchers please!

 

[Jazer]

No offence to you, but it was catholic nuns and catholic monks that started to treat illness with first alchohol, after that they started to invent other drugs as well.

If I remember right they were treating people in a mental institution for some sort of a tape worm or something like that. They found that their mental condition improved when they took the medicine. That was the beginning of using drugs for psychological conditions. Although I would think they would have given them something to calm them down a long time ago. Often today instead of physical restraints they will use a chemical restraint (drugs) to help them with difficult people. My sister in law is a psy nurse and that is their job to get the patients to take their drugs.

 

[TheReasoner]

If I remember right they were treating people in a mental institution for some sort of a tape worm or something like that. They found that their mental condition improved when they took the medicine. That was the beginning of using drugs for psychological conditions. Although I would think they would have given them something to calm them down a long time ago. Often today instead of physical restraints they will use a chemical restraint (drugs) to help them with difficult people. My sister in law is a psy nurse and that is their job to get the patients to take their drugs.

mmmm. Drug delivery by blow darts! (Kidding)

I remember I spoke with a former elite soldier. This guy was old, so he was a soldier long ago. But if he was to be believed - and I have not fact checked this - when they were dismissed after a lot of training and possibly some dark missions he couldn't talk about they were ordered to get well and truly wasted. Truly and thoroughly drunk - as part of the rehabilitation procedure intended to bring them back into society, to help them slide back into civilian life. I am guessing they were not allowed to drink when they were active (In my time in green elite troops and officers were not). And maybe they had been conditioned with getting wasted being a trigger of some sort. What do I know? According to him though, he said that back then they had no shrinks and would make do with bottles instead.

Could have been utter nonsense, but funny story regardless.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Lillen, I say this with all the love I can muster:
If you are serious about what you write in your posts then you are in need of help. You need to go to a psychiatrist. And no, they are not the devil's servants. They do know what they are about and can help you. Okay? Go see a doctor, Lillen. If you're in Sweden it should be free for you.

From what I can interpret from Lillen's posts, he's been diagnosed as schizophrenic but believes Jesus has healed him. Thus, he is likely not taking any medications. His posts show he is clearly delusional and out of touch with reality. He needs to see a psychiatrist.

 

[Jazer]

I remember I spoke with a former elite soldier.

What evidence did you have that he was an elite soldier? I remember back in the 70's when I was in basic training I saw a troop of Green Berets march by. I remember how small most of them were. I figure there were not many big guys that could do all the running and physical exercise that was demanded from them. Quite a bit different from the John Wayne image we see in the movies.

 

[Jazer]

He needs to see a psychiatrist.

Can you give me some evidence that psychiatrists are able to help people? From what I understand they closed down the state hospitals. If someone breaks the law then they just put them in prison. I saw on TV where they have psy wards and meds in the prison system.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Can you give me some evidence that psychiatrists are able to help people? From what I understand they closed down the state hospitals. If someone breaks the law then they just put them in prison. I saw on TV where they have psy wards and meds in the prison system.

For schizophrenia, antipsychotic medications are pretty good at suppressing the "positive" symptoms of a psychotic episode, like delusions and hallucinations. Schizophrenia is a very rough illness to manage.

This wikipedia article covers it pretty well:
Management of schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jazer]

Schizophrenia is a very rough illness to manage.

I was involved in a inner city mission church for a few years. Some of the people that would show up for lunch could be very interesting to say the least.

 

[Lillen]

From what I can interpret from Lillen's posts, he's been diagnosed as schizophrenic but believes Jesus has healed him. Thus, he is likely not taking any medications. His posts show he is clearly delusional and out of touch with reality. He needs to see a psychiatrist.

I am not only clearly delusional and out of touch with reality, I am also dissociative and manic!! I do not only need to see a psychiatrist i need to see atleast two of them.

Fair, how far do you want me to go??

Lets assume that was the case, lets assume I actally should need to see a doctor. I would actually say that i am in the very best company, better then yours. much better.

 

[Lillen]

I know doctors that were emprissoned for kidnapping and using painful animal test on humans.

 

[Lillen]

If you want the hear a story, a childrens fairytale. When i was eighteen i was placed on institution, There i met this guy who had all kinds of foreign ideas, such as that you can think away antabus. yes we were on antabus and urinsamples every second day to prevent alchohol and drugusage. He had all kinds of ideas which i though sounded strange. These days I actually understands him. I thought I would get love and brotherhood on that instution. But how wrong were I? I was given a snare of death so I could hang myself, my blood was shed to the ground, and I was burnt at the stake, totally toasted. And all the time they said that it was my own fault. Penalism is never good. And that is what we endured on that institution.

 

[Lillen]

Do you want to hear about that time I went down to the bottomless pit to fight the dragon?
Or do you want to hear about that time I wrote a prophecy, which I now have forgotten most of?!

Ok hear it goes, after being poisoned with ratpoison in the local pizzaresturant, I fought against death, i was emprissoned in my house. I started to fix the a plate which had broken which were one of the last memories i got from my father who died when I was 11, i read the bible (NKJV) and wrote down these words on a sheet: Then the word of the Lord came to me saying "Thus says the LORD: 'take up a lamentation against Pharao and say to him;
"Enough with your lies for you witness only of lies for with your stubborness your son died, with all your lies you made your people fall, for you said to them I know the secrets of God" You say "I am the son of God" But you are led by lavaiathan the sea serpent for your heart says i am a snake"

I can't rember the other lamentions, against egypt, agaist nebuchadnessar or agaist the King of Tyre.