Sexuality - isn't it natural?

[mathclub]

sex is normal

lol.

whether something is 'normal' or not has nothing to do with whether it is right or wrong, good or bad.

the same as whether it is natural or not

 

[razeontherock]

That depends on which Christian you're talking to. Some think that if you've thought it, it's just as bad as doing it. Which is silly, if you ask me. Some people really believe that, though.

This is an idea worth pursuing. What did Jesus say on the topic, and/or what did He mean by it?

 

[razeontherock]

Aren't all sins equal in the eyes of God?

I think that question gets asked or addressed in different contexts, and it can seem like the same people wind up espousing wildly different ideas. I don't think that's really the case though, just a matter of appearances.

In the context of judgment for sin, I think anybody who both knows God and reads the Bible has no choice but to concede that both punishment and rewards are doled out in differing amounts, based on merit.

A wholly different context is the idea of God's standards, whereby we are either acceptable to Him or not. The most extreme example of this is perhaps the passage that "if you break even one point of the law, you are guilty of breaking all of it." That's an idea that is 100% foreign to Judaism, in which the law was given. Also notice that none of this has any bearing on whether God loves an individual or not.

Considering all the above, it shouldn't be surprising that we will hear different ideas about any of this, and that some statements might seem to conflict.

 

[razeontherock]

It is helpful, because I am clarifying that whether something is 'natural' or not has nothing to do with whether it is right or wrong.

You won't find a majority on CF accepting that position

 

[Johnnz]

Our sexuality is as natural as growing hair, having teeth, and being either male or female. It is part of being created as human beings.

John
NZ

 

[selfinflikted]

This is an idea worth pursuing. What did Jesus say on the topic, and/or what did He mean by it?

No offense, but I have no desire to engage in debate or even dialogue with you, so no, I don't care to discuss it.

 

[razeontherock]

No offense, but I have no desire to engage in debate or even dialogue with you, so no, I don't care to discuss it.

Protip: saying "no offense," and then being intentionally offensive, is transparent.

 

[selfinflikted]

Ed.

 

[mathclub]

You won't find a majority on CF accepting that position

unfortunately for you the truth is not voted on. The truth is truth regardless of what popular opinion is.

So that's a Naturalistic Fallacy that we have been discussing, and you're now adding an Argument from Popularity in there.

Want to throw in another one for good measure?

 

[razeontherock]

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[mathclub]

Our sexuality is as natural as growing hair, having teeth, and being either male or female. It is part of being created as human beings.

John
NZ

I didn't argue that fact.

I said that fact is irrelevant to helping us determine what is right and wrong.

Do you understand this yet?

 

[mathclub]

Good to see you understand that your disingenuous behavior has consequences, including not making others inclined to address your malicious questions. That relegates all your complaints to the status of mere puffery.

actually the fact he doesn't like you is irrelevant to any other points he made

 

[razeontherock]

unfortunately for you the truth is not voted on. The truth is truth regardless of what popular opinion is.

So that's a Naturalistic Fallacy that we have been discussing

A premise that is rejected

 

[mathclub]

A premise that is rejected

it's not a premise. It's a fallacy.

Naturalistic fallacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if you want to start using logic (which would be a good idea for you) then I'd suggest learning some of the basic terms.

 

[selfinflikted]

Good to see you understand that your disingenuous behavior has consequences, including not making others inclined to address your malicious questions. That relegates all your complaints to the status of mere puffery.

ETA: amazing crossposting timing! Your quote didn't say Ed when I wrote this

What's Ed got to do with it? [/Tina Turner]

Unfortunately, I can't say what I'd like on this forum. I'm one measely point away from being perma-banned, so I Ed.(ited) the post. I think you got the message, though.

 

[razeontherock]

it's not a premise. It's a fallacy.

The premise that you consider it to be a fallacy - is rejected. That some College Prof decided to teach you it is so, does not make it correct, nor applicable here. It does have some limited merit, but it is incumbent upon you to apply it correctly.

The sky is still blue, and above the grass which is still green. This is as it should be, and is no fallacy. Go ahead and argue against it, but don't be deluded into thinking your argument has strength.

 

[razeontherock]

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[selfinflikted]

I've been perma-banned, twice.

And yet, you are still here. They must not ban IPs then, and only usernames. lolfail.

Believers are held to a far stricter standard than you are,

You don't have a straight face just now, I know it.

but I still speak the mind of the Lord,

You speak the mind of Raze.

Perfection will be attainable someday, but in the meantime that is only the Christian (future) Hope, not present reality. Obviously

Obviously.

 

[back2thebible]

Unfortunately, I can't say what I'd like on this forum. I'm one measely point away from being perma-banned, so I Ed.(ited) the post. I think you got the message, though.

I thought Christians were supposed to forgive those who sinned against them when they admitted their error........how could perma-banned even be possible on a Christian websight.....now theres a topic!

 

[selfinflikted]

I thought Christians were supposed to forgive those who sinned against them and admitted their error........how could perma-banned even be possible on a Christian websight.....no theres a topic!

lol Excellent point!