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People are simply more likely to post about problems they are having than good things going on in life. People would rather vent the negative. I think it's just human nature.
I said it Cons, b/c you drag a lot of negativity into the discussion with posts like that. Tell me one positive thing you see coming out of no debates being allowed here. Can you humor me?
That clears it up for me actually. Thank you. Well said.My evaluation is neither accurate nor inaccurate....its my opinion, just like the fact that I dislike coconut is neither accurate nor inaccurate.
This idea therefore that I would benefit from it is what is flawed. Like ive said if you like it great, I beg you dont stop visiting them, I encourage everyone to visit them, i post there in a blue moon, usually something mildly humorous just for fun, because I have no interest to say "last night I finished repairing the wheel that fell off the mower" even though thats a true statement, or, yesterday was daughters 1st soccer game, also true....I personally cannot imagine how those random facts are interesting.
I once listened to my wife and a lady at the neighborhood pool talking, they were basically doing what that threat does, each would say "I" or "My (kids)" and tell what they liked or didnt like or whatever, and they did that for a good 20 minutes, they enjoyed it, it was fellowship for them, no problem, I get that for them, not for me. There was no engagement, just quoting actions and opinions in an unrelated string. Its OK if I dont like that, and I sincerely see no "benefit" from it.
Ive always been that way, I have a son the same way (there some facts) that he and I talk about this, he is college freshman so we can actually compare notes, I never had a large crowd of "friends" because of this tendency to not like extremely superficial talk, son is the same, he and I like to actually talk with someone for bonding, we dont bond at the surface level at all, maybe that limits us and makes us stuck with a handful of very good friends and not a gaggle of acquaintances we can run around with. But its how we are, and Im the same way online. I can easily go into goofy mode and make jokes even in serious threads and usually Im the only one doing it. I also find that odd, that humor in the midst of heated threads is rarely responded to, except by Dallas, she and I are kinda lonely in that.
anyway..there a bunch of random things
That clears it up for me actually. Thank you. Well said.
Yes, quite serious.Good, I mean that...good, if it explains why I do one thing and others like other things, then lets accept that.
Its the pinnacle of irony when folks who dislike debate, proceed to debate about debate, trying to discredit those who are saying that prefer other modes of conversing.
I hope you are being serious and not sarcastic
Good, I mean that...good, if it explains why I do one thing and others like other things, then lets accept that.
Its the pinnacle of irony when folks who dislike debate, proceed to debate about debate, trying to discredit those who are saying that prefer other modes of conversing.
I hope you are being serious and not sarcastic
IMO any time your goal is to prove "I'm right, you're wrong," it is a debate and shouldn't belong here. A discussion is, "This is what I believe, and here is why." There is room for disagreement, as long as all agree to disagree, civilly.
What if it is simply facts being pointed out? If someone says "The Bible says you shall love the Lord your God etc" that's not really debatable. If someone says it doesn't say that, they're simply wrong.
IMO any time your goal is to prove "I'm right, you're wrong," it is a debate and shouldn't belong here. A discussion is, "This is what I believe, and here is why." There is room for disagreement, as long as all agree to disagree, civilly.
This word "negative" seems to keep entering discussions and is being used often to label people's (other people's) beliefs/opinions. What I don't get is.....how does one feel qualified to be the one to say what is "negative"....what's "positive"? I mean, isn't that just another way of saying, "I'm right"...."You are wrong"?
As Cons is pointing out.....we all have our own styles. He and his son share with me a lack of need for small talk......we prefer "big talk" instead. For us....that IS positive. (Hope I'm not getting presumptuous.)
But, do you see the irony that's occuring, even in this thread? Do you see who the one is that's accepting of other's *right* to their opinion? Not debating, but just stating his views and offering an explanation of why. (I will give a hint....it begins with a "C"). IMHO.....that's the attitude that needs to be taken on.......the attitude that other's do have their own way of looking at things. But, he was told he is bringing in "negativity".......I saw it as a positive post. Even that has two sides. That view of "negative" was *just* an opinion--but, was stated as a fact. I think that may be a part of the problem.Exactly. It seems to me as if debate is being demonized while fellowship is being put on a pedestal.
This is your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it, but it is *just* an opinion.
I don't know how to say this is the Christianese language that makes it acceptable....maybe *anything* I say is the wrong way, but......do you not see negativity in what you said, Faith? I'm sorry....I am not calling you out or wanting to humiliate you, but to *me*........that reads as minimizing his opinion, by emphasizing the *just*. IMHO.....that could be perceived as goading, because it just seems to put a person on the defensive.I said it Cons, b/c you drag a lot of negativity into the discussion with posts like that. Tell me one positive thing you see coming out of no debates being allowed here. Can you humor me?
Exactly. It seems to me as if debate is being demonized while fellowship is being put on a pedestal. Personally I think both are completely valid forms of forum communication.
Healthy debate is one major way that iron sharpens iron, imo.
Healthy debate is one major way that iron sharpens iron, imo.
Exactly. I know I can get tunnel vision, and it's nice to have someone explain to me how things *look* from outside that "tunnel".....or the other "view". The world IS big....and there is more than one side to most issues, so getting the full picture takes many perspectives.I agree..otherwise we are just sheep...blindly following along..BAHHH...BAHH...The world is too big to NOT debate!(which of course is debatable)
Dallas
IMO any time your goal is to prove "I'm right, you're wrong," it is a debate and shouldn't belong here. A discussion is, "This is what I believe, and here is why." There is room for disagreement, as long as all agree to disagree, civilly.
I agree..otherwise we are just sheep...blindly following along..BAHHH...BAHH...The world is too big to NOT debate!(which of course is debatable)
Dallas
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