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Severe depression - Need prayers

Onlythingavailable

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I suffer from anxiety too, and I have a hard time being around people. I don't know why I am like this, like you I was once "normal." I don't blame God, though. I don't think He picks out illnesses or problems for us. Can He use adversities for His glory and for good? Most certainly, but does He create them? I'm not so sure about that. We live in a fallen world where there's enough misery for everyone.
 
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I suffer from anxiety too, and I have a hard time being around people. I don't know why I am like this, like you I was once "normal." I don't blame God, though. I don't think He picks out illnesses or problems for us. Can He use adversities for His glory and for good? Most certainly, but does He create them? I'm not so sure about that. We live in a fallen world where there's enough misery for everyone.
Well, I wouldn't say I used to be "normal". I've basically lived my entire life with my issues, however, they only resulted in severe depression about 8-9 years ago.

I don't know the answer to whether God gives us problems. I guess my bigger issue is, even if he didn't, he could have prevented them or could fix them at some point, but for whatever reason opts not too. I'm not really sure what good is coming out of my situation that actually makes it worth it.
 
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I think there's only one reason for suffering in this world and it's sin. I don't mean one's own sin, but the sinfulness of the world. People murder and hurt each other, so somehow it doesn't seem at all out of place that disease and disorders exist. I don't remember if the Bible ever addresses the origin of illnesses, but if it is sin that is the cause, it explains why God hasn't cured everyone. God wants to save us from sin, and it can only happen through Jesus Christ. If He wanted to heal everyone, He would have to destroy sin, which basically means destroy everyone. But when the time is up there will be a new earth and heaven with no sin, and no disease.
 
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I know who God and Jesus are. My point is, I think it's illogical to claim to know they exist for a fact. Some atheists claim to know for a fact that God doesn't exist. Neither side can prove their claim, so why make it? Unfortunately, there are probably more reasons that make it hard to believe in God, than reasons to believe in him. I'm not saying I don't believe in him, because I know I need him, but when you struggle with the pain I deal with on a daily basis, and he remains completely silent, it's near impossible not to question whether he's really there or not.
I'm going to address 2 things to you.


1. You responded to the first part, that being the part about Who God Is. However, I didn't notice any response to the part about what He did for us that we couldn't do for ourselves. Specifically:

Jesus Christ, God the Son, is the only person who can save you from your sin? You cannot save yourself?
Acts 4:12, I Pet. 1:18-19, John 3:18.

Jesus Christ made a complete and permanent substitute payment for your sin?
Heb. 10:10-12, II Cor. 5:21, I
Pet. 3:18, Col. 2:13,14.

You must believe on Jesus (not just believe about Him, but rely on Him and Him alone) in order to gain eternal life?
John 3:18, John 5:24, Rom. 3:24-26, Rom. 4:2-5, Gal. 2:16.

To rely upon Jesus is like relying on a chair? Believing in your mind that a chair will hold you up is not enough. You must cease holding yourself up and sit in the chair to get the benefit.
Tit. 3:5.

God wants those who believe in Jesus to know they have eternal life?
I John 5:12,13, John 6:47, Titus 1:2.

I'm not worried about what an atheist thinks he can prove. And I don't have to prove the existence of God. It's His reponsibility to prove His own existence, and He has provided plenty of His own proof. I am only responisble for telling the story, God proves the story. Additionally, you can't save yourself in your daily life any more than you could in your eternal life. Believing, you walk in faith or you fail.


2. Did you read my post on depression? I sent you the link. In case you missed it, here it is again:

http://christianforums.com/t6622360-for-those-asking-why-am-i-depressed.html

May I strongly urge everyone to take a look at it. While you may not be suffering from depression, no doubt you know someone who is, and it might help you minister to their needs.
 
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Well, I wouldn't say I used to be "normal". I've basically lived my entire life with my issues, however, they only resulted in severe depression about 8-9 years ago.

I don't know the answer to whether God gives us problems. I guess my bigger issue is, even if he didn't, he could have prevented them or could fix them at some point, but for whatever reason opts not too. I'm not really sure what good is coming out of my situation that actually makes it worth it.

Sometimes you just don't know what good comes out of something until years later when you look back and realize if "X" had not have happened then "Y" would never have occured. It's just a fact of life regardless of whether X was a good thing or a bad thing.

And remember. You have friends. You have us. We are all praying for you. And it matters to us what happens to you. You matter to us.
 
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Sometimes you just don't know what good comes out of something until years later when you look back and realize if "X" had not have happened then "Y" would never have occured. It's just a fact of life regardless of whether X was a good thing or a bad thing.

And remember. You have friends. You have us. We are all praying for you. And it matters to us what happens to you. You matter to us.
I appreciate your support. You guys are pretty much all I have. I don't have much support anywhere else.
 
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Praying for you, Jase.
How are you doing? :hug:
Hi there. Well, I haven't been crying quite as much for the last few days, although I've had a bad cold for a week. Still really stressed that I haven't found a good job yet though. And still feel lonely all the time. As I mentioned before, I've been trying hard to be friends with a couple co-workers, but I feel like they don't take me seriously. I guess we're casual work friends, but I wish I had more close friends that I actually hang out with, and I guess that isn't going to happen with them. One of the guys is quite a bit older than me ( 16 years) and has a family, but we have a lot in common. It's frustrating when you want to be close friends with people, but they don't really feel the same way. :(
 
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Lord, please lead guide and direct Jase as he searches for a job.
Help him to find a friend that sticketh closer than a brother. :amen:

Jase, sometimes you become really good friends with co-workers and you think it's a great friendship, but a lot of times when you change jobs, the friendships at the old job sort of fall through the cracks.

What type of hobbies do you have? That would be a great place to find new friends. And of course church/synagogue. Mention (to someone you trust & respect) at church that you need to find some 'new' friends. Maybe they can help you find someone from within that has simular interests.

You are not alone. I'm not a social butterfly either. So I understand what it's like not to have a lot of friends.
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Hi there. Well, I haven't been crying quite as much for the last few days, although I've had a bad cold for a week. Still really stressed that I haven't found a good job yet though. And still feel lonely all the time. As I mentioned before, I've been trying hard to be friends with a couple co-workers, but I feel like they don't take me seriously. I guess we're casual work friends, but I wish I had more close friends that I actually hang out with, and I guess that isn't going to happen with them. One of the guys is quite a bit older than me ( 16 years) and has a family, but we have a lot in common. It's frustrating when you want to be close friends with people, but they don't really feel the same way. :(

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Take it slowly, brother... let people get to know you. You are a very caring , compassionate person, and others will appreciate that. But friendship doesn't happen overnight.
God is in control, and He *will* put you with the people who will support you and help you to grow in Him, and who you can support too.
He has the perfect job for you - and His timing is perfect.. He is planning it, you just need to wait and to trust...
Jeremiah 29:11
"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."



Praying for you.
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Jase, sometimes you become really good friends with co-workers and you think it's a great friendship, but a lot of times when you change jobs, the friendships at the old job sort of fall through the cracks.
Yeah, that's what I'm worried about because I'm not sure how much longer they are going to stay here. I'd like to think we would stay in touch, but it probably won't happen. :sigh:


What type of hobbies do you have? That would be a great place to find new friends. And of course church/synagogue. Mention (to someone you trust & respect) at church that you need to find some 'new' friends. Maybe they can help you find someone from within that has simular interests.
My hobbies are tennis, music, theater, and languages. I actually work at a tennis club which is where I met my co-workers. So these people i'm trying to be friends with, I met through a hobby and work.

I don't currently belong to a church/synagogue. Being Jewish I feel kind of akward in church, and since I believe in Jesus I don't fit in synagogue. And there are only about 1 or 2 messianic congregations in driving distance, but I'm not sure i'd fit in with those either.
 
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