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I completely agree with you on this point. IMO, atheists tend to have higher morals and are more charitable and accepting in their behavior.

We are not agreement. I believe atheists are not morally superior to faithful believers. That is just totally false for you to even say such a thing.

In fact, I seen an atheist in another thread just recently make an unloving remark in regards to the death of a young mother.


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Sorry. Jesus says "this generation" and he does not single out the pharisees alone here. Jesus says, "The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here." (Matthew 12:41).


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Read a few verses earlier, and you will find that it was the scribes and Pharisees he was addressing himself to. He did not mean that everybody then alive was asking for a "sign" as an excuse for not believing.
 
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We are not agreement. I believe atheists are not morally superior to faithful believers. That is just totally false for you to even say such a thing.

In fact, I seen an atheist in another thread just recently make an unloving remark in regards to the death of a young mother.


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Read a few verses earlier, and you will find that it was the scribes and Pharisees he was addressing himself to. He did not mean that everybody then alive was asking for a "sign" as an excuse for not believing.

No. Jesus is not exclusively referencing the Pharisees only. He is referring to THIS generation of people (That woud include both the Jews and the Gentiles). How so? Well, Jesus uses the words, "this generation" elsewhere in reference to the end times in Matthew 24. Peter says believers (i.e. true believers) are a chosen "generation", a royal priesthood, an holy nation, and a peculiar people (1 Peter 2:9). Also, Jesus points us to the Ninevites repenting (Who are Gentiles) in Jonah 3. So if Gentiles properly repented in the past, that means things have not changed in regards to repentance. For there is no Jew or Gentile in Christ (Galatians 3:28); And Christ was making use of the Gentile's example with the Ninevites on their repentance to point out to us that this generation needs to repent.


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Do you have a link?


As I said before, I do not believe all self professing believers are right with God. Jesus says narrow is the way that leads unto life and FEW be there that find it. So it is not looking at the wide gate group of believers to prove your case here. We are talking about those FEW believers who are faithful to God and who are loving and good.



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that asks atheists movitations as to why they talk on Christian forums.
I can field that one (as an atheist I think I have the inside track on what an atheist might think) for you.

I come here to ensure that I do not exist within a social media bubble populated only by people who believe as I do.

This site is a cornucopia of ideas that I would not normally be exposed to: including but not limited to Climate change denial, flat Earthers, misogyny, gun nuttery, perpetual motion devices, racism, birthers, warp drives, homophobia, ToE denial, cdesign proponentists, anti abortionist, demons causing autism, demons causing autism, the end is nigh and toilet terror.

It's a fascinating place, yes sir!
 
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I can field that one (as an atheist I think I have the inside track on what an atheist might think) for you.

I come here to ensure that I do not exist within a social media bubble populated only by people who believe as I do.

This site is a cornucopia of ideas that I would not normally be exposed to: including but not limited to Climate change denial, flat Earthers, misogyny, gun nuttery, perpetual motion devices, racism, birthers, warp drives, homophobia, ToE denial, cdesign proponentists, anti abortionist, demons causing autism, demons causing autism, the end is nigh and toilet terror.

It's a fascinating place, yes sir!

All people sin unless God intervenes in their life to help them to overcome their sin. Nobody can stop sinning without the Lord.


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Peter says believers (i.e. true believers) are a chosen "generation", a royal priesthood, an holy nation, and a peculiar people (1 Peter 2:9).

All of which should tell you that the Greek word genera has a broader meaning than the English word generation has today. It can mean something like "group" or "people".

Anyway, who exactly are "true belevers"? Anybody who agrees with you, because you are the ultimate measure of what it means to be a Christian?
 
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All of which should tell you that the Greek word genera has a broader meaning than the English word generation has today. It can mean something like "group" or "people".

Anyway, who exactly are "true belevers"? Anybody who agrees with you, because you are the ultimate measure of what it means to be a Christian?

Look, we are not going to agree.
So I think it is best we agree to disagree.

Good day to you.
And may God bless you.
Moving on.


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As I said before, I do not believe all self professing believers are right with God. Jesus says narrow is the way that leads unto life and FEW be there that find it. So it is not looking at the wide gate group of believers to prove your case here. We are talking about those FEW believers who are faithful to God and who are loving and good.



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Not my problem or job to figure out who's a "True Christian." All I can do is take them at their word.

And the fact that I do not, or have ever, condoned slavery, makes my morality higher than the god of the OT - by default.
 
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Good day to you.
And may God bless you.
Moving on.

Moving on from this thread seems to be a favourite pastime of yours, only to be back a few hours later.
 
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Not my problem or job to figure out who's a "True Christian." All I can do is take them at their word.

So you believe (or take the word) of everything a Christians says as true then? If that is the case, then you should go by what their holy book (The Bible) says. Their holy book says that narrow is the way that leads to life and FEW be there that find it. Surely even life teaches us that not all people in every profession is genuine or good. There are doctors out their who are unfit to practice medicine because they are fakes. There are people who have appeared as a police men and yet they were fakes. But if they say to you they are one, you are just going to go by their word? Okay.

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And the fact that I do not, or have ever, condoned slavery, makes my morality higher than the god of the OT - by default.

Biblical slavery is not like traditional slavery. People sold themselves into slavery in Biblical times to pay off debts or the Israelite's would buy slaves from another culture only to set them free later in 7 years. Slavery is not something God had written in His Word like... "Thou shall take slaves and put them under your hand all the days of their life." The Bible does not say that. However, that is what your definition of slavery suggests by the little use of words that you have given. It leads the reader to have the wrong conclusion (and it does not lead them to the truth of God's Word on the matter).

Clearly God condemned the slavery of the Israelites by the hand of Pharoah; And God is not two faced.

We also have to realize that Biblical slavery was not about some master sitting in a throne like chair all day while his slaves served him whatever he desired whereby he would whip or beat them into oblivion if they did not do the task as perfectly desired. Masters also worked hard, too. Jesus said the greatest among you is he who serves. Jesus suffered many things and was crucified. We are told told to follow His example.

As for the justice involved in regards to the mistreatment of slaves (temporary servants) mentioned in Exodus 21:20-21:

Read this article here.


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I did... the day I realized that "sin" is a not really a thing.

So you don't think you can do wrong (Which is the essence of what sin is)?


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So you believe (or take the word) of everything a Christians says as true then? If that is the case, then you should go by what their holy book (The Bible) says. Their holy book says that narrow is the way that leads to life and FEW be there that find it. Surely even life teaches us that not all people in every profession is genuine or good. There are doctors out their who are unfit to practice medicine because they are fakes. There are people who have appeared as a police men and yet they were fakes. But if they say to you they are one, you are just going to go by their word? Okay.



Biblical slavery is not like traditional slavery. People sold themselves into slavery in Biblical times to pay off debts or the Israelite's would buy slaves from another culture only to set them free later in 7 years. Slavery is not something God had written in His Word like... "Thou shall take slaves and put them under your hand all the days of their life." The Bible does not say that. However, that is what your definition of slavery suggests by the little use of words that you have given. It leads the reader to have the wrong conclusion (and it does not lead them to the truth of God's Word on the matter).

Clearly God condemned the slavery of the Israelites by the hand of Pharoah; And God is not two faced.

We also have to realize that Biblical slavery was not about some master sitting in a throne like chair all day while his slaves served him whatever he desired whereby he would whip or beat them into oblivion if they did not do the task as perfectly desired. Masters also worked hard, too. Jesus said the greatest among you is he who serves. Jesus suffered many things and was crucified. We are told told to follow His example.

As for the justice involved in regards to the mistreatment of slaves (temporary servants) mentioned in Exodus 21:20-21:

Read this article here.


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I'm always amazed at how many "Christians" don't read their bible.

"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way."
 
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I'm always amazed at how many "Christians" don't read their bible.

"I appreciate debating with you, because you have 66 books in your Bible, instead of the usual 27." (One Christian pastor to another)
 
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