Seven Earth-Like Planets Found

[American Deist]

Whilst I have no sympathy for KJV-Only-ism, the KJV was commissioned by James I, not Henry VIII, as a way of placating the Puritans in his realm. It borrows very largely from Tyndale's translation.

I should have clarified that when the Church of England formed, King Henry commissioned the Great Bible (1535), which was to be printed in English instead of the traditional Latin. You are correct that the KJV was commissioned by James, and it came 68 years later.
I knew that and have no excuse for my oversight.

 

[American Deist]

So what will He do with them when the universe and stars infold like a scroll and exist no more?

Ask God.

 

[TheOldWays]

No, it is not. I used to not believe and then I believed one day (which was not something I planned on). After accepting Jesus I could see the Lord working within my life. Then God also showed me at a later time, evidence to prove that His Word is true, as well. So we are not even close to seeing things in a similar way, my friend. Not even close.

Yes it is. I used to believe and then one day I didn't (which was not something I planned on as I was about to become a pastor). After moving on from Jesus I found other paths to follow that helped me in my life. Then Amida Buddha showed me at a later time, evidence to prove his vow is true, as well. So we are very close to seeing things in a similar way, my friend. Very close indeed!

 

[American Deist]

Well, I am not KJV-Only. The KJV is merely my final word of authority. I believe in reading Modern Translations to help update the 1600's English in the KJV. Also, I believe the Word of God was preserved perfectly in 4 languages thru out time, as well (i.e. Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and English).

What about German? Surely you can't forget Martin Luther!

Or French? French versions existed long before the KJV.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes it is. I used to believe and then one day I didn't (which was not something I planned on as I was about to become a pastor). After moving on from Jesus I found other paths to follow that helped me in my life. Then Amida Buddha showed me at a later time, evidence to prove his vow is true, as well. So we are very close to seeing things in a similar way, my friend. Very close indeed!

Well, I do not agree; And we both cannot be right. God and His Word is superior to any other religion out there. It is just God and not the name of some deity. It is simply God's Word and not a special name of some particular book revealed to just one man. For God's Word has many evidences backing it up that it is a divine book unlike any other book in human history.

Anyways, we are done talking. You have made your choice to reject Jesus Christ and there is no turning back from doing something like that.


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[Bible Highlighter]

What about German? Surely you can't forget Martin Luther!

Or French? French versions existed long before the KJV.

The Bible existed perfectly in the Latin language before the KJV. This was not the corrupt Latin Vulgate (mind you).

Read this article here.

As for Martin Luther: Well, I am not a big fan of him. He teaches Eternal Security and the Bible teaches strongly against such a doctrine.


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[TheOldWays]

God and His Word is superior to any other religion out there.

It's a fine path. I followed it for years. Then I found the Nembutsu and Amida's vow and found it worked better for me and was a simpler path to salvation after death. Which works for me.

Anyways, we are done talking. You have made your choice to reject Jesus Christ and there is no turning back from doing something like that.

Fair enough. Have a good day.

 

[JackRT]

It borrows very largely from Tyndale's translation.

The KJV is about 80% identical to the Bishop's Bible. In fact King James I insisted on that. I am not sure to what extent the Bishop's Bible was influenced by Tyndale. The RC Duay-Rhiems Bible came out a few years before the KJV and reads very much the same as the KJV which leads me to speculate on whether it had some influence on the KJV as well.

 

[American Deist]

The Bible existed perfectly in the Latin language before the KJV. This was not the corrupt Latin Vulgate (mind you).

I have a Doctorate of Theology from seminary, and I have to disagree with your assessment.

 

[lesliedellow]

The KJV is about 80% identical to the Bishop's Bible. In fact King James I insisted on that. I am not sure to what extent the Bishop's Bible was influenced by Tyndale. The RC Duay-Rhiems Bible came out a few years before the KJV and reads very much the same as the KJV which leads me to speculate on whether it had some influence on the KJV as well.

90% of the KJV is a word for word copy of Tyndale's Bible. The Bishop's Bible was famous only for the number of errors it contained. James I was high church, so he insisted, for instance, that εκκλησία be translated "church" rather than "assembly". Other than that, the translators had a free hand.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

The KJV is about 80% identical to the Bishop's Bible. In fact King James I insisted on that. I am not sure to what extent the Bishop's Bible was influenced by Tyndale. The RC Duay-Rhiems Bible came out a few years before the KJV and reads very much the same as the KJV which leads me to speculate on whether it had some influence on the KJV as well.

I believe God's Word was preserved in our language today based on what God's Word says. There can be only one Word of God and not many. In a side by side comparison test, the KJV stands superior to the Modern Translations that are out there. Also, the KJV is not like the Catholic Bible. That is simply a false claim. In the earlier version of the Catholic Bible, they eliminate the command on idolatry. This is not the case with the KJV.

Anyways, this is not a KJV debate thread. So let's please move on. Thank you.


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[American Deist]

It is just God and not the name of some deity.

God is merely the English term used to name the deity.

In Hebrew it is Elohim.
In Greek it is Theós.
In Latin it is Deus.
In Arabic it is Allah.
In German it is Gott.
In Japanese it is Kami.

English did not exist as a language during the BC or Jesus era.

 

[RDKirk]

I somewhat disagree. Earthlike is a somewhat vague term and a somewhat vague term seems appropriate when there is a lot we do not know about a planet.

Science uses common words all the time and in context they have specific definitions.

However Earthlike does sound a bit too good. It raises images of Science fiction worlds that from a close view look immediately habitable.

Perhaps terraformable is better. That would seem to only require that the planet is of the right composition and size that it might be possible to make habitable.

I don't think "Earthlike" is vague at all. I think "Earthlike" means "like Earth."

The difference would be like a biologist calling a bear "humanoid."

On an "Earthlike" planet, I should be able to open the shuttle door without wondering, "Is there air?"

 

[American Deist]

Also, I believe the Word of God was preserved perfectly in 4 languages thru out time, as well (i.e. Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and English).

Then by your own admittance, the Word of Jesus has not been perfectly preserved, since he spoke Aramaic.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I have a Doctorate in Theology from seminary, and I have to disagree with your assessment.

No offense, but I am not impressed with titles or how you think you studied God's Word according to the popular road of education. I believe the Holy Spirit guides a believer into all truth and not a school taught by men. In fact, I strongly disagree with a Christian in going to Bible school because the school has it's own agenda and teachings that run contrary to God's Word. For one, Bible schools program their students to think that a person cannot understand Gods Word without knowing the original languages. Also, do Bible schools heavily teach against Eternal Security or Antinomianism? I highly doubt it.


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[American Deist]

No offense, but I am not impressed with titles or how you think you studied God's Word according to the popular road of education. I believe the Holy Spirit guides a believer into all truth and not a school taught by men. In fact, I strongly disagree with a Christian in going to Bible school because the school has it's own agenda and teachings that run contrary to God's Word. For one, Bible schools program their students to think that a person cannot understand Gods Word without knowing the original languages. Also, do Bible schools heavily teach against Eternal Security or Antinomianism? I highly doubt it.


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Those that don't like to be challenged by academia usually throw in the Holy-Spirit-as-guide defense. What laymen do not receive is training in apologetics, hermeneutics, exegesis, languages, cultural philosophies, etc. In other words, they don't understand the Bible in context.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Then by your own admittance, the Word of Jesus has not been perfectly preserved, since he spoke Aramaic.

Did Jesus Speak Hebrew? - Disputing Aramaic Priority


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[Bible Highlighter]

Those that don't like to be challenged by academia usually throw in the Holy-Spirit-as-guide defense. What laymen do not receive is training in apologetics, hermeneutics, exegesis, languages, cultural philosophies, etc. In other words, they don't understand the Bible in context.

Not true at all. I use the context many times (over the many years) to defend what the Bible says plainly in our own language. Jesus said beware of the scribes. This would be those who "trans-scribed" the law or the Holy Scriptures (Meaning, beware of the scholars). Why? Because some of them say things like, "Oh, hey look Jimmy. The Bible doesn't really say that. That's English. See in the Greek it really says this." And so poor Jimmy goes away believing them (with their tails tucked between their legs) and without being a good Berean and seeking the Scriptures to see whether those things were so or not (Acts 17:11). James 2:5 talks about how God has chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith. Poor people do not alway have easy access to tools and resources that wealthy Bible scholars do. However, God was more than capable of communicating to people in their own language in Acts chapter 2. God did not require them to use an older language so as to understand what He was saying. God is simple and He is not complicated.

So no. I do not believe that those who are rich enough to go to Bible college are God's special elite force of understanding God's Word.

Pastor Mike Hoggard used to be in your camp. But he crossed over back to being simple again in just reading God's Word plainly in his own language. He explains his experience of being in the camp you are in (and he is not in favor of it now). Granted, I do not believe everything Pastor Mike Hoggard says or teaches, but I do agree with him on the KJV and Modern Translation debate for the most part. Granted, I believe I can use Modern Translations to help update the language of the KJV (which is something he differs with me on). But do I believe the KJV is the perfect Word of God for our day? Absolutely! For it is my final Word of authority.


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[Loudmouth]

Ha

Leave it to Christians to tell atheists what they really believe. They must be the best mind readers in the world.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Leave it to Christians to tell atheists what they really believe. They must be the best mind readers in the world.

Actually, Christians should use God's Word to tell you about your mindset and understanding of God. The Bible says that there is no excuse in knowing about his existence because His creation declares His glory.


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