Setting the Record Straight

[smooze]

He does seem to have done alot through HIS life, Ummm that link to the Strgois just a factoid on them existing interesting read. Im sure people can google them if they perfer.

 

[NightEternal]

Oh please. Like you ever had any respect for me to begin with. Not that I ever was wanting it anyhow.

Yes, I am reporting this post. You are a liar who is bearing false witness.

Split the forum already. It is time.

 

[smooze]

Oh please. Like you ever had any respect for me to begin with. Not that I ever was wanting it anyhow.

Yes, I am reporting this post. You are a liar who is bearing false witness.

Split the forum already. It is time.

huh ? ummm night wrong thread dude LOl

 

[smooze]

Just so you know...stuff like this is very triggering..may I ask you edit it? Not just for Moriah, but for me...I have been through abuse and such..and that is very triggering..

ok i took the link out did you mean that or everything If I remove everything you might have to edit your own also thanks!

 

[JonMiller]

Johnathan,
Moriah,
Spiritual abuse has the potential to exist in each and every denomination.
Remember the adversary's mo is to covert that which is Gods and it does not care how it gets it or what lies it takes to steal it away. Twisting scripture and perverting the gospel of grace is one of that's all time faveourites.

It will hold a mirror up to you and you will see yourself reflected in it and think that is the adversary itself.

Come find me in BSA about this though.

I honestly think that others who have been there might be better equiped to help her then the people here... as has been shown.

JM

 

[NightEternal]

Also, what people are not understanding here is that this isn't the first time I have heard Moriah speak like this. Therefore, it is neither shocking nor suprising to me.

She has endured several attempts at exorcism and deliverance, as well as chastisment for her condition ad-nauseum.

She probably came here expecting something different.

Too bad some can't seem to rise to the occasion.

 

[smooze]

I said A prayer for her night I cant think of anything more I could do. Getting a rise out of anybody about worshiping Satan and whatever we all know Satan power has limits is CAN be overcome. I love yeah Moriah and all my other friends on here. If I'm guilty of wanting to serve the LORD and praying for LOST or troubled souls then send me to the gallows for following JESUS and preaching HIS good word. AMEN.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Also, what people are not understanding here is that this isn't the first time I have heard Moriah speak like this. Therefore, it is neither shocking nor suprising to me.

She has endured several attempts at exorcism and deliverance, as well as chastisment for her condition ad-nauseum.

She probably came here expecting something different.

Too bad some can't seem to rise to the occasion.

That would include you, since the only thing you contributed to this thread was the fact that you just loved one of her blasts against the Adventist church.

If it's not YOUR job to "fix" her, why should any of us take on that responsibility either? Please tell me that. You can sit on your high horse all you want that WE failed her and didn't rise to the occasion, but what's funny is that you haven't said anything in this thread to help her whatsoever....yet you claim to be her friend.

It may not be shocking to you anymore Night, but I don't think there'd EVER come a time when I could read the worlds "satan is my lover" and not react to it.

I'm praying for her.

 

[TrustAndObey]

And where are all your progressive friends? Why aren't they saying ANYTHING either?

You do realize if the forum splits, she aligns most with you guys. Are they going to help her then?

Where is your speech to THEM?

I have no doubt Moriah has been hurt by people. The ones that don't even try to help are her biggest enemy right now.

 

[smooze]

I'm a lone wolf in a sea of antagonists I said a prayer ,for Satan to release her and let her live her life. Ofcourse Satan can seem charming and He is the angel of light but most who follow him do wicked crazy things. Out of the heart of Darkness there is a energy in this world, I have seen the energy and how man is consumed by it. Yeshua "JESUS" says we can do whatever we want and heal each other through this energy or we can embrace it and do wicked with it. Sometimes even the most righteous among us will be tricked by the smallest of gestures. Remember my friend I care about you and all my other friends on here.

 

[djconklin]

Thanks to Woob for showing us how it should not be done.

Said the pot to the kettle.

 

[icedtea]

I have not exalted Satan; I have merely told the truth about myself and my experience. Let it go.

Yes, you have and told others how wonderful he is and asked others to join you.

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

And where are all your progressive friends? Why aren't they saying ANYTHING either?

You do realize if the forum splits, she aligns most with you guys. Are they going to help her then?

Where is your speech to THEM?

I have no doubt Moriah has been hurt by people. The ones that don't even try to help are her biggest enemy right now.

Maybe and this is just a wild thought people could try and be nice to this troubled person. Maybe we have no idea what is wrong and should not be assuming possession and occultic activity just because a troubled mind has decided upon that position.

Now it may be easier for some to assume they can cast out the devil from the keys of their keyboard then it is to convince a person to seek psychological help. But I don't know that either one is the answer as we are not actually present with the person and thus not likely to be worthy of the trust of the person or even the ability to make recommendations that they would care about.

In truth the healing of the mind is no different from the healing of the body and except in rare instances these miraculous healing to do not occur even though we may want the quick fix.

 

[NightEternal]

For crying out loud Trust, would you read the quote already!?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moriah_Conquering_Wind
this is the reason for most of your vitriolic "self supporting" institutionsand the holy-sounding jihadsagainst mother SDA church they launch ...

It was not a blast against the mainline SDA church I was agreeing with. She was clearly targeting independent ministries who have separated themselves from the mainline church and attack us. That's what I was agreeing with.

 

[NightEternal]

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Said the pot to the kettle.

Whatever Conklin.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Maybe and this is just a wild thought people could try and be nice to this troubled person. Maybe we have no idea what is wrong and should not be assuming possession and occultic activity just because a troubled mind has decided upon that position.

Now it may be easier for some to assume they can cast out the devil from the keys of their keyboard then it is to convince a person to seek psychological help. But I don't know that either one is the answer as we are not actually present with the person and thus not likely to be worthy of the trust of the person or even the ability to make recommendations that they would care about.

In truth the healing of the mind is no different from the healing of the body and except in rare instances these miraculous healing to do not occur even though we may want the quick fix.

I have been nice to Moriah.

Why are you telling me all this instead of talking to Moriah? She started this thread and laid her feelings out on the table...she is the one wanting some answers to this problem, not me.

If she has a troubled mind instead of demonic possession, which appears to be what you're saying, what would your words to her be?

 

[NightEternal]

If it's not YOUR job to "fix" her, why should any of us take on that responsibility either? Please tell me that.

That is exactly what I am trying to say! Nowhere did I say any of you SHOULD. In fact, I am trying to tell you that it is only making things worse when you guys attempt to.

Just be her friend and don't over-react to her comments.

You can sit on your high horse all you want that WE failed her and didn't rise to the occasion,

The occasion some didn't rise to was to avoid the panic mode, witch-hunt mentality. I actually thought for a while it was going to be avoided, and then Woob goes off on his ridiculous campaign against her, commanding demons to come out of her, inflaming things and making Moriah even more angry and hostile. She clearly told him to back off and leave her alone and he refused to do it.

Maybe the pattern has not occured to some yet, but if you go after her the way some have done, she will respond with tenfold aggression. This approach is clearly NOT WORKING, so why not just leave her be?!

but what's funny is that you haven't said anything in this thread to help her whatsoever....yet you claim to be her friend.

I am helping her in my own way. My approach may not be what you consider helpful, but so far I am the only one she has asked to have conversations on justification by faith with. Do you think Woob is going to get to that point by his approach? Not likely.

Moriah trusts me and I have earned that trust. You don't gain it by assailing her with information she already knows. She has dealt with Christians on an extensive scale, you guys are not the first. She knows very well how her comments are going to be regarded. She doesn't need to be 'reminded' of it.

It may not be shocking to you anymore Night, but I don't think there'd EVER come a time when I could read the worlds "satan is my lover" and not react to it.

Just because it doen't shock me does not mean I agree with it.

I'm praying for her.

Good. That is a more sensible approach than commanding the demons to come out of her online.

 

[icedtea]

If she has a troubled mind instead of demonic possession,

I was told it is both.

 

[TrustAndObey]

I was told it is both.

By whom? Moriah?

 

[woobadooba]

Night, you have made a mockery out of me twice now in this thread. Please stop doing this.

Just because she has allowed you to give her instruction on something, and not me, that doesn't mean I did something wrong.

Even Jesus was rejected by many whom He had sought to instruct and correct. So don't even go there.

And just because you are able to give her instruction, that doesn't mean you are going to give her what she really needs. So don't flatter yourself!